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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — John Cassavetes
death_jamm_productions — 14 years ago(April 24, 2011 10:13 AM)
So I was perusing Ray Carney's shrine to John and came across this little ditty:
'1987 - 1988
Rowlands leaves a sick Cassavetes alone in Los Angeles in order to go to New York and act in Woody Allen's Another Woman. She remains away for almost a year. Cassavetes is lonely and miserable and bitterly complains about her absence.'
OK so is this true? I find it highly unlikely Rowlands would be this brazen and that John would sit around bitc*ing to Carney about this-as far as I know around this time he was working like crazy to write, produce and direct She's So Lovely (as later titled) before becoming too ill to do much else?
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death_jamm_productions — 14 years ago(April 27, 2011 03:47 PM)
having spoken to carney myself i get the distinct impression (as did he) that Nick was very much a mother's child, quite aloof with John in general probably down to the reasons you've discussed. No doubt a great shame and goes some way to explain why Nick is so different to his father for example
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hushsara — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 07:14 AM)
Is this from "Cassavetes on Cassavetes"? I discovered Ray Carney's website just the other day interesting stuff but I wonder about this guy, his attitude towards Gena Rowlands in particular seems very aggressive, he seems fixated with unvealing some "crucial" Cassavetes truths, like it's him against the world. Do you recommend the book though?
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Prom_Queen_Carrie — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 07:04 AM)
Ray Carney is a Cassavetes stan and he has it in for Gena Rowlands because she won't do what he wants regarding Shadows. She's doing what her husband wanted. I take the things he says with a grain of salt. John Cassavetes being a complicated man and pain in the ass is not news. Carney is acting like some fanboy who discovered his idol is not perfect.
And Carney said something like Gena had no understanding of her husband's films. Yet go and listen to that 90 minute interview with Gena and John on A Woman Under the Influence. She shows more of an understanding of Mabel and Nick 2000than even John does! She said some really insightful things about her husband's films. For Carney to say that, just shows he's got an axe to grind because he couldn't get what he wanted. He's a nuisance. I'm sure Cassavetes wouldn't appreciate what he says about his wife, and he was supposedly really annoyed by Carney by the end anyway.
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Prom_Queen_Carrie — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 07:08 AM)
That's true, but of course Carney being Carney and having it out for Rowlands words it in the harshest possible light. Their close friend Peter Bogdanovich made it seem like while Gena was making Another Woman, the filming began taking longer than expected, and so Gena and John were both miserable and missing each other.
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rorygunn — 9 years ago(December 05, 2016 09:04 AM)
I'll just say this..I was like everyone else and had stardust in my eyes when it came to Gena and never really understood Carney's POV until I dealt first hand with Gena and her handlers then I got the picture and the bloom was off the roseI never confused Gena with john's work ever again