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Was she really 'perfect'?

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    kathyselden — 17 years ago(February 24, 2009 05:22 AM)

    You raise a good point, though I have to point out one thing- it's not so much that women's bodies have changed, it's just that standards of beauty have. There are still plenty of stunning women who no one would dare to call ugly- it's just that they're not the ones who are being put into magazines and on catwalks. I can't tell you how many absolutely stunning curvy women I've met of whom I thought, "Now SHE looks like a movie star". But that look just isn't in vogue now. Standards of bea5b4uty will always change- it's just up to us not to fall victim to the fickle nature or fashion 🙂
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      coolioava — 16 years ago(December 01, 2009 08:00 PM)

      i don't know about that judy garland was gorgeous but MGM told her she was too fat at the age of twelve or thirteen and force fed her drugs until she was skinny. So behind the scenes hollywood wasn't all yay voluptuosness all the time.

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        heather_m1986 — 16 years ago(January 03, 2010 08:00 PM)

        Most classic stars were somewhere between a modern size 2 and a modern size 6. Audrey Hepburn, Katharine Hepburn, and Barbara Stanwyk were always on the slim side. Sophia Loren, Marilyn Monroe, and Ava Gardner were on the heavier side. I actually think actresses weights are getting a bit back to normal now. Recessions usually kill trends toward waifishness. Scarlett Johannson is probably about a 4, maybe a six. Rachel McAdams looks like she's about a 4. Grace Kelly was about a 4. The size 0 really ought to go out of fashion

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          beedless — 17 years ago(February 23, 2009 09:51 AM)

          Few pre-1970's hollywood beauty queens would pass current acid tests for beauty. Old guys who were indoctrinated in the Marilyn Monroe sexo-beauty ideal still have an appreciation for bloat, cellulite and cakey-faces.

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            joonas2058932 — 16 years ago(December 24, 2009 11:36 AM)

            she would be if she was alive 87 years old. next year 88.

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              CatelynTullyDidNothingWrong — 15 years ago(May 09, 2010 04:44 PM)

              I've never heard that, and I don't think she is, but she was obviously very attractive. What Hollywood calls "flaws" (strong nose, wide set eyes, square jaw, cleft like Ava or whatever) are actually what makes up real beauty.
              I donno why they say that, but a LOT of classic actors back then were thought to look perfect.
              You think you think that you're glowing, but you had been ho-ing, and now you're pregnant.

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                  rosalindruthven — 15 years ago(May 11, 2010 09:20 AM)

                  Now, I'm no feminist, but I'm getting sick to death of this almost fetishisation of women - the dissecting of their appearance all the time. Do we do the same thing with male celebrities? Not as much, if at all, I think - and there are plenty of beautiful male stars, both old Hollywood and current.
                  Anyway, everyone knows there is no such thing as the 'perfect' face; have you seen those computer-generated 'scientifically perfect' faces? Booooring, so therefore not perfect.

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                      catpukecatplsswhatsthediff — 15 years ago(November 17, 2010 09:58 AM)

                      Even some ugly bitches have perfect faces.
                      Check out Rosy De Palma. She has nose that's striking.

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                          purplewitch — 15 years ago(January 19, 2011 09:24 AM)

                          Yes, she was absolute perfection. To me, the most gorgeous woman of all times.Too bad she passed away so soon.

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                              jones7418 — 14 years ago(May 12, 2011 09:52 PM)

                              From head to toe, she was the most perfectly beautiful woman in the world. EVER. No one comes close, even now. In later years, she aged beautifully; no need for plastic surgery on her! Just a breathtaking woman.

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                                rokrox — 14 years ago(June 20, 2011 11:41 AM)

                                Lots of people say she aged badly, but even in that TV soap opera thing she did (no idea what it was called, just saw a clip in her Bio documentary) I thought she looked gorgeous, if maybe not as show-stopping as in her younger days- but who is?
                                "Of course it's me, who were you expecting?"

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                                  Jackieosdilldoh — 14 years ago(December 27, 2011 03:59 PM)

                                  FAR from perfect and in many ways. The only women whose faces I've heard referred to as perfect (and they look quite similar) are Michelle Pfeiffer and Catherine Deneuve.
                                  And both are far more talented than Ava Gardner. And far more beautiful.

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                                    ssurkhabi — 14 years ago(January 12, 2012 10:32 PM)

                                    Oh, please. Those women didn't have the exotic-ness(yes, that's a word now) that Ava had. Ava was far more beautiful than those two.

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                                      Jackieosdilldoh — 14 years ago(January 18, 2012 09:54 AM)

                                      Ava Ga1c84rdner was not exotic nor talented. She was Sinatra's hillbilly redneck shack job.

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                                        denis-38 — 14 years ago(March 11, 2012 10:21 AM)

                                        Sorry, nobody is "perfect." If you think somebody is perfect, it's only your opinion. Ava was a great, great beauty. She was not "perfect." Neither was Liz, Lana, Rita, Marilyn, etc.fabulous women all, none of them "perfect."
                                        And you are correct"perfect beauty" (whatever that is!) tends to be boring. Give me a few flaws, anytime.

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