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    jwhuey67 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:23 AM)

    nice, Dr. J! I have ZERO tolerance for flamers
    KIG!
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      DoctorJuliaHoffman — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:52 PM)

      jwhuey,
      coloradochinesequested is foolish. He/She says Ginger is an average actress in his/her topic and then says in the message, itself, she couldn't act. Talk about contradictions! He/She has been busy being a troll on the Gwyneth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston and George Clooney message boards (among others). Obviously, he/she is envious of the people he/she loves to bash here on IMDb.

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        mcdemuth — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 07:38 AM)

        Never got her "appeal."
        That's fine. I never understood why Katherine Hepburn or Marilyn Monroe was so popular. "
        To Each His Own
        ".
        She wasn't pretty.
        "
        Eye of the Beholder
        ". I think she was very beautiful, an her eyes were more worthy of a song or two, compared to Bette Davis.
        couldn't act
        You don't know what you are talking about.
        As already noted: She won an Oscar as best actress for "Kitty Foyle" (1940), the very next year, after she decided to focus on movies with out Mr Astaire.
        And I think she also should have won an Oscar for her performance in "Storm Warning" (1951). Her character gets furious at her co-star, and I was so convinced she really was furious, it made me so uncomfortable I actually wanted to leave the room.
        Lucky she had Mr Astaire to boost her fame, without his twirling her she would have remained a chorus girl.
        For your information, Miss Ginger Rogers made about twenty movies before ever hooking up with Mr Astaire, who had only done a couple. And she was never a "Chorus Girl". She was the lead in several of those early films. And later on, starred in several films more films as the lead.
        and for the most part gave me stomach pains.
        Ok Troll, Do you feel better that you came here, dumped your sickness all over Miss Ginger Rogers' reputation and her fans loyalty, and then ran away like a chicken?
        At least Miss Ginger Rogers' was5b4 a wonderful human being, and would never have said the things you did, to you.
        I suggest that you go see a Doctor, and then watch more of Miss Ginger Rogers' Films you know, the 63 films she did without Mr Astaire.
        You might also want to check out a few TV Shows she guest starred on. She also released a few record albums.
        You won't regret it!
        And let's not forget the number stage & theater productions she did
        In addition, she also had her very own stage show she did in the late 1970s which ran for a few years.
        All of that doesn't sound like some "Average" Entertainer to me.
        "
        Put A Little Love In Your Heart
        , and then
        Make Your Own Kind Of Music
        , on the road to
        Shambala
        !
        "

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          jwhuey67 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:21 AM)

          nice reply, McD!!! I was a bit more 'curt'and wanted to be a LOT more 'curt' but not wanting to get tossed off the board
          KIG!!!
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            MonicaSellersMonroe1 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 05:29 PM)

            You don't know what you are talking about.
            As already noted: She won an Oscar as best actress for "Kitty Foyle" (1940), the very next year, after she decided to focus on movies with out Mr Astaire.
            And I think she also should have won an Oscar for her performance in "Storm Warning" (1951). Her character gets furious at her co-star, and I was so convinced she really was furious, it made me so uncomfortable I actually wanted to leave the room.
            Oscars are just popularity awards. Even Cher has one. Kitty Foyle was a dull film that's only remembered by the few remaining Ginger fanatics. No one cares if you think she deserved an Oscar for the dull and dreadful Storm Warning.
            Ok Troll, Do you feel better that you came here, dumped your sickness all over Miss Ginger Rogers' reputation and her fans loyalty, and then ran away like a chicken?
            At least Miss Ginger Rogers' was a wonderful human being, and would never have said the things you did, to you.
            I suggest that you go see a Doctor, and then watch more of Miss Ginger Rogers' Films you know, the 63 films she did without Mr Astaire.
            You are truly unhinged. No one is required to worship your beloved Ginger Rogers. Did you ever even meet Ginger Rogers? How the hell do you know what she was like?

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              mcdemuth — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 06:35 PM)

              Well, It's been a long while since you last stopped by
              And said a bunch of negative things about Miss Ginger Rogers
              insulted me
              , and probably insulted others here too, for speaking positively about her.
              And here you are again, doing the exact same thing.
              It's really sad, that you seem to hate Miss Ginger Rogers for some reason, clearly despise people who think otherwise, and are only capable of making negative comments
              No one cares if you think
              I don't really see why I should care about what you think, either So This is the only thing that I am ever going to say to you
              Best Wishes To You For A Happy Life!

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                DoctorJuliaHoffman — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 04:22 AM)

                mcdemuth, MonicaSellersMonroe is a hater. Just by taking a quick glance at the message boards she visitsshe's recently hated on Meryl Streep, Barbra Streisand, Janet Jackson and more. Ignore the hater.
                Ginger got superb reviews for "Kitty Foyle" and the movie still packs an emotional wallop. It was a staple on pre-cable TV for many, many years. Since cable, it runs frequently on TCM and was shown often on AMC when it was legit.
                "Kitty Foyle" was one of my town's libray's first movies on VHS. Now, our library has both the old VHS version as well as the DVD. Speaks volumes for an almost 77-year-old film.
                Regarding "Storm Warning", I've always found it thrilling and suspenseful. I love the scene when Steve Cochran tries to molest Ginger and she gives him a tearful telling-off.
                The LA Examiner said the acting of Ginger Rogers and Doris Day in this film was the best seen at Warner Bros. since Bette Davis and Olivia de Havilland. Cue said it was Ginger's finest performance to date. MonicaSellersMonroe is a naysaying troll!

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                  MonicaSellersMonroe1 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 06:25 AM)

                  Storm Warning and Kitty Foyle are both long forgotten by the public. Not even the presence of former President Reagan and the truly legendary Doris Day have helped.

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                    MonicaSellersMonroe1 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 06:26 AM)

                    I don't hate Ginger Rogers. I hate when people try to use IMDB as a fan site. No one is above criticism. I don't understand why you get so personally offended by people who don't worship her.

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                      DoctorJuliaHoffman — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 06:45 AM)

                      You use IMDb as a hate site, MonicaSellersMonroe. Your mentality "I hate it when people try to use IMDB as a fan site." needs to go. (It smacks of hate!) Where better for fans to discuss their favorite stars than a site like this? I've read the hate you'd written about other actors and actresses here on IMDb. If you dislike Ginger Rogers, Meryl Streep, Barbra Streisand, et alstay off their message boards. This message board is for Ginger Rogers. "Kitty Foyle" and "Storm Warning" are not forgotten by Ginger's fans. Just because a film is old doesn't mean its forgotten. Bette Davis wasn't nominated for an Oscar for "Of Human Bondage". Yet, she won an Oscar for "Jezebel". Just because those films are old doesn't mean they're forgotten by her fans.

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                        mcdemuth — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 09:59 AM)

                        I am not sure how
                        HATERS
                        interpret their desires to go see a movie these days
                        But back in Miss Ginger Rogers time, great actresses like Miss Ginger Rogers were considered to be "
                        Box Office Draws
                        ". Many People would go to see a movie, because their favorite stars were in it. THAT IS A FACT! That is why Studios signed Great Actors to long term contracts, and used them, time and time again in all of their movies.
                        Heck, even as late as 1978, which was AFTER Miss Ginger Rogers heyday When
                        Superman: The Movie
                        was made While the producers knew that Superman needed to be played by an Unknown Actor, they also knew they needed big name stars to appear in the film too, in order to attract adult audiences, because Superman was considered by many to be "
                        a character that only children would be interested in seeing
                        " And so
                        Marlon Brando
                        &
                        Gene Hackman
                        were cast And if anyone takes the time to notice, they will see that they are are top billed, BEFORE Christopher Reeve. That's really saying something, since Christopher Reeve plays the title role and lets face it We all know that the only real reason, why anyone would want to see THIS movie, is because of Superman! But that told audiences, this was not going to be a "
                        Kiddie
                        " film. And it wasn't!
                        The reality is, without FANS of actresses like Miss Ginger Rogers, Movies would constantly flop at the Box Office, because no one would want to go see them. Eventually the movie industry would have come to an end, and websites like IMDb wouldn't exist.
                        IMDb owes it's existence to the
                        FANS
                        , and it wasn't created so HATERS could bash every fan and every movie!
                        IMDb is NOT a HATE site!
                        If any HATER can't accept the reality, that FANS will be on IMDb praising their favorite stars, and mourning them when they pass
                        R.I.P. Carrie Fisher & Debbie Reynolds
                        then
                        THEY
                        are the ones who are "
                        Truly Unhinged
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                          jwhuey67 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:13 AM)

                          you mad, bro? or Ms. bro?
                          I don't need to defend the Academy-Award-winning, #14 AFI-ranked Greatest Actress of all-time, as her resume speaks for itself. If you aren't a fan, fine but no need to jump on her Board and flame about how 'average' she isyou really sound like a sad, sullen person who can only feel relevant by trying to bring everyone else down to your 'average', stomach-churning level. Go take some seltzer, dudeprobably the leftover cat food you ate for breakfast.
                          And what have YOU accomplished in life to this point? Until IMDb has a1354 dedicated Message Board for 'Coloradochinesecrested' (whatever THAT is), your weak smack is irrelevant - and it would be even if you DID have your own board (in which event I will assume that the proprietors of the IMDb board had completely lost their mind, or had been viciously hacked.)
                          go back to the Kate Hepburn board or wherever the flip you crawled over here from.
                          Ginger Forever,
                          VKMfanHuey

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                            wickeddqueen — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:35 AM)

                            HA!! Ridiculous! I studied tap with a man named Tracy Everitt, who beside doing the Judy Garland Show, studied with Astaire and Hermes Pan.. And he said Ginger Rogers was the only dancer who ever looked natural with Astaire, all the other women he danced with were so impressed by him they let it show in their dance, she was the only one who wasnt, and was herself.. Said she had the best natural balance of any dancer he'd ever seen..
                            And thats just the opinion of one professional who happened to work in that era.. You only have to watch and have ANY knowledge of dance at all, to see she is amazing.. Oh, and no without Astaire she WOULDNT be a chorus girl, as she had a career in movies before he did!! They just happened to work SO well together, that 80 years later, it still cant be touched!
                            THATS why today you hear 'Fred and Ginger' NOT Fred and Eleanor, or Fred and Cyd, or Fred and Judy.. Because the one who stood out was GINGER.. Time has proven it..

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                              jwhuey67 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:07 PM)

                              SO true! And remember, Ginger won her Oscar WITHOUT Mr. Astaire

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                                retrogurlaz — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:36 PM)

                                Hmmm, what's that smell? I do believe it's troll poo.
                                To the OP, you are laughably transparent in your trolling efforts, and of course you are absurdly, ridiculously wrong in all of your pathetic comments pertaining to the divine goddess known as Ginger Rogers.
                                Do everyone a favor and scurry back under your bridge. You have no power here.
                                You have messed with the wrong fans.

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                                  mcdemuth — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 01:59 PM)

                                  You have no power here.
                                  in all of your pathetic comments pertaining to the divine goddess known as Ginger Rogers.
                                  You have messed with the wrong fans.
                                  LOL!
                                  @coloradochinesecrested
                                  :
                                  Yesss, Yesss Wrong Place You Have Come!
                                  To
                                  retrogurlaz
                                  you listen!
                                  The Trolls You Are Looking For, Aren't These. Move Along!
                                  Goddess Ginger Rogers

                                  The Troll Menace.
                                  Attack Of The Gingerologists.
                                  Revenge of The Trolls.
                                  A New Gingerologist.
                                  The Trolls Strike Back.
                                  Return Of The Gingerologists.
                                  Anything Gingery Enlightens.
                                  To All Gingerologists:
                                  "
                                  May Anything Gingery Always Be With You!
                                  "
                                  Carrie Fisher & Debbie Reynolds & of course Miss Ginger Rogers
                                  R.I.P. Forever!

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                                    jwhuey67 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:06 PM)

                                    PREACH, retro!!!

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                                      ninariding — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:39 PM)

                                      Very odd critic of Ginger. She was much more than a chorus girl Far from unattractive. Perhaps you should watch a different one of her movies and rethink your opinion of her

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                                        DoctorJuliaHoffman — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 05:04 AM)

                                        The OP is a naysaying oddball who has been bashing Gwyneth Paltrow, George Clooney, Jennifer Aniston and others on their message boards. Just a troll!

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                                          mcdemuth — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 10:58 AM)

                                          Yes, there are a few trolls that pick a random message board or two each day, and go there and will say hateful things, lies, or just make crazy stuff up
                                          The one about Carrie Fisher being adopted was flat out dumb, because it was always obvious Carrie inherited Debbie Reynolds eyes
                                          Still, it is hard to tell when the non-"crazy" ones come by, because they are good at being specific and make it seem like they are really genuine.
                                          I guess the lack of specifics coming from the OP, should have been a clue what we were dealing with
                                          I've also learned to watch out for people making statements, and then saying "It's True", but then they don't provide any documentation to back up their claim.
                                          Nevertheless, it still stings to hear such comments concerning our beloved Miss Ginger Rogers.
                                          Unfortunately, the OP wasn't the first one to take aim at Miss Ginger Rogers, and probably won't be the last.

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