Danny Lockin (who toured with multiple casts of "Hello Dolly" on stage both before and after the movie) said that Rogers
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rjolden-1 — 10 years ago(December 16, 2015 06:41 PM)
Not to worry Juntenbrown, I spoke with a former cast member of Hello Dolly this afternoon and she completely refuted what Danny may have said. Her take was Ginger was completely marvelous to the cast and they became friends well past the two years she spent with the company. She did not see any nastiness on GR's part with anyone perhaps Danny didn't like a comment or suggestion Ginger may have made to him??
Anyway, those of us who have known Ginger personally can offer up that she was a very nice person, and not the callous "bh" spoken about by the pixie. -
junetenbrown — 10 years ago(December 16, 2015 11:31 PM)
Thanks Ms Olden for posting the cast member's take on the two years working in the Hello Dolly tour. In Ginger's autobiography she made mention of how the casts were professional and hard workers and at the end of a tour gifts or tokens of appreciation and love were highlights
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vkmfanhuey — 10 years ago(December 17, 2015 04:40 AM)
case closed sometimes folks are bitter about other folks for whatever reason, and there's always detractors you have to look at the 'big picture' as to how many folks she worked with have felt that way and from my studies (and yes, I have done a LOT of GingerResearch), there's just not too many instances of it
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JelenaG890 — 10 years ago(December 18, 2015 06:41 PM)
I don't know if she was really not a nice person, but my uncle met her several times. He was a former boxer who met her several times, when he lived in Miami. At the time, Ginger was dating Jake La Motta, who owned a club in Miami that my uncle and other boxers frequented.
My uncle said Ginger was mostly cordial, but not overly friendly to him. However, he said Ginger's mother was an incredibly nice, friendly and lovely woman. -
kbratk — 10 years ago(December 23, 2015 05:48 PM)
I have had the pleasure of meeting several people who had met Ginger along the way, including members of her home church. No one has said a thing to detract from her image as a kind, sincere, generous and lovely workaholic. Nor have my studies of Ginger and her life found many cases of anything said of her which were less than optimal. All of us run into a few people during our lives that just don't seem to fit in with the way things are going. Perhaps this was the case in this instance with the Pixie's friend. When one studies someone in great depth, it can feel as if you really know someone. I think that if Ginger was with us today, her response would likely be, "Merry Christmas!" And the same is my wish for all of you!
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DoctorJuliaHoffman — 10 years ago(December 24, 2015 07:53 AM)
I came here because I've always enjoyed Ginger Rogers. I am shocked by the mean-spirited tripe that IMDb user PixieInChains has found necessary to write here. Danny Lockin was a "Who dat?" name until I looked him up on Wikipedia. After "Hello, Dolly!" his career declined due to substance abuse and he was stabbed (100 times!) to death by a man he met at a gay bar. What an unfortunate way to go!
Danny said nasty things about other "Hello, Dolly!" stars. Regarding Carol Channing he said "Carol Channing is rather disconcerting. You'll notice her looking at you with those big baby-stare eyes. Then eventually it dawns on you that the person behind those eyes is, in show business terms, about 200 years old". Of Ethel Merman he said "She wasn't Dolly up there, she was Ethel Merman in Dolly clothes".
So, I wouldn't take anything Danny said about Ginger as being the truth. Perhaps he or one of the other cast members felt slighted that Ginger didn't have the time to become bosom buddies with them and said "She thinks we're sub-human imbeciles". And it bacame garbled over the years. Broadway players who aren't the show's major star can be very nasty, jealous and b*tchy.
I read Ginger's autobiography when it was first published. I remember her fondness for pottery. In her autobiography she said that she took the time to make each of the cast members of "Hello, Dolly!" a pottery gift at the show's closing. I mean, how nice is that? It isn't every star who is thoughtful enough to make each member of the cast a handmade gift.
I saw the "Ginger Rogers, Joan Rivers TV Interview" on YouTube. Joan Rivers says to Ginger "You've always had the reputation of being a lady nice and warm and l16d0iked by the crew". Ginger was liked by Fred Astaire, Bette Davis, Cary Grant, Lucille Ball, Bob Hope and the list goes on and on. IMDb's Miss PixieInChains should receive a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" from Santa this year. That is if he doesn't give her a stocking full of coal. -
vinidici — 10 years ago(December 28, 2015 06:15 PM)
I came here because I've always enjoyed Ginger Rogers. I am shocked by the mean-spirited tripe that IMDb user PixieInChains has found necessary to write here. Danny Lockin was a "Who dat?" name until I looked him up on Wikipedia. After "Hello, Dolly!" his career declined due to substance abuse and he was stabbed (100 times!) to death by a man he met at a gay bar. What an unfortunate way to go!
Danny said nasty things about other "Hello, Dolly!" stars. Regarding Carol Channing he said "Carol Channing is rather disconcerting. You'll notice her looking at you with those big baby-stare eyes. Then eventually it dawns on you that the person behind those eyes is, in show business terms, about 200 years old". Of Ethel Merman he said "She wasn't Dolly up there, she was Ethel Merman in Dolly clothes".
So, I wouldn't take anything Danny said about Ginger as being the truth. Perhaps he or one of the other cast members felt slighted that Ginger didn't have the time to become bosom buddies with them and said "She thinks we're sub-human imbeciles". And it bacame garbled over the years. Broadway players who aren't the show's major star can be very nasty, jealous and b*tchy.
I read Ginger's autobiography when it was first published. I remember her fondness for pottery. In her autobiography she said that she took the time to make each of the cast members of "Hello, Dolly!" a pottery gift at the show's closing. I mean, how nice is that? It isn't every star who is thoughtful enough to make each member of the cast a handmade gift.
I saw the "Ginger Rogers, Joan Rivers TV Interview" on YouTube. Joan Rivers says to Ginger "You've always had the reputation of being a lady nice and warm and liked by the crew". Ginger was liked by Fred Astaire, Bette Davis, Cary Grant, Lucille Ball, Bob Hope and the list goes on and on. IMDb's Miss PixieInChains should receive a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" from Santa this year. That is if he doesn't give her a stocking full of coal.
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mcdemuth — 10 years ago(December 26, 2015 01:36 AM)
Anyone who says such nasty things, or repeats nasty things that others have said, about a much loved actress,
20 YEARS
after that actress had died, and can no longer defend herself Clearly shows to everyone what kind of an evil person they are, and seriously needs to seek some professional psychiatric help, if they don't want go to hell. If it isn't already too late
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vkmfanhuey — 10 years ago(December 26, 2015 08:19 AM)
agreed that it's not cool to critique anyone who is no longer with us (ESPECIALLY Ginger) altho, there are PLENTY of 'GingerDefenders' out here you're reading one now
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vinidici — 10 years ago(December 28, 2015 06:21 PM)
Anyone who says such nasty things, or repeats nasty things that others have said, about a much loved actress, 20 YEARS after that actress had died, and can no longer defend herself Clearly shows to everyone what kind of an evil person they are, and seriously needs to seek some professional psychiatric help, if they don't want go to hell. If it isn't already too late
No need to go to extremes, mcdemuth. Even our OP is guilty of malign gossip, that 1c84wouldn't necessarily make her "an evil person," as opposed to someone who has said or done something evil (and haven't we all?)
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HarlowMGM — 10 years ago(January 04, 2016 04:24 PM)
Your "friend" has a curious definition of what a "b*tch" is - in my opinion it's a rude, malicious, trouble making individual, things even Ginger's handful of detractors in Hollywood have never said of her. There is no way I believe Ginger ever called anyone "subhuman imbeciles". I can see her snubbing or ignoring people she didn't like but absolutely not her speaking so venomously of her coworkers. No one has ever made such a allegation before to my knowledge. Your pal frankly sounds like one of the many nasty, gossipy little people in show business in minor jobs who are ultra-jealous of the stars they come in to contact and spread nasty tales about them. It happens to every star even Ginger Rogers.
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vinidici — 10 years ago(February 28, 2016 08:32 PM)
Harlow, thanks for that ^ .
I always appreciate and enjoy your comments.
Some of our most beloved Hollywood icons weren't so nice in private; others were decent sorts who occasionally flew off the handle; and still others were of the sort where seldom an evil word could ever be said of them; as far as I've always known, Miss Rogers belonged to that last class of entertainers.
I became acquainted with Erik Rhodes, Miss Rogers's co-star in THE GAY DIVORCEE and TOP HAT, in the mid 1980's and until he died; Mr. Rhodes had nothing but good things to say about Ginger and her most famous of leading men, Fred Astaire. -
lilamendezes12 — 9 years ago(June 03, 2016 05:58 PM)
Every one has a few bad days in their life. My grandfather knew Ginger slightly back in the day, when she dated Jake La Motta he frequented a club he owned. He never had a bad word to say about her, said she was always friendly and polite.
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JaneThree — 9 years ago(July 03, 2016 12:22 PM)
I read an old interview with Gail Patrick given when Patrick was a senior citizen. Patrick was a frequently employed, glamorous supporting actress in the 1930s and 40s, often as the "other woman. " Some of her movies include "Stage Door", "My Man Godfrey", "My Favorite Wife" and "Love Crazy." She also produced the Perry Mason TV series. She talked a bit about working on "Stage Door" which starred Ginger and Katherine Hepburn. She said Ginger was a delight, loved by the crew, and Katherine Hepburn was a pain in the ***. Her opinion was that Katherine H. was jealous of Ginger because of Ginger's popularity. Patrick was a true friend, because in her opinion "Ginger was a better natural actress too!" (than Hepburn). She goes on to talk about how Ginger got her roles in film when Patrick's acting career hit a lull, and how much she appreciated it.
The only other Ginger story I have was when Ginger was older and I think in some type of tour/review. The guy who told it to me worked security. His main remark was that she was extremely chatty and friendly.
I've always been curious about Ginger's mother. There are "stage mothers" that are a detriment, and then there are parents that are a real asset. It always seemed to me that Ginger's mother had her own life, didn't live through her daughter or control her, but was probably the best business manager and smart about money and her daughter's (and others) best interests. Her mother has quite a story. Unlike, say, Jean Harlow's mother, Ginger and her mother were smart about money, didn't squander it, helped others. I don't think Pandro Berman would have had the woman in his office just to make Ginger happy. It's also very important that a female star of the era get paid what they're worth, as star careers for women are very short. Just about every female movie star of that era had to make some kind of stink before they got paid what their male co-star got paid, or at least fairly. That goes on today still.