Unfortunately, her claim to fame was marrying Tom Cruise
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The_Dougster — 12 years ago(December 19, 2013 06:28 PM)
I would say that much of what the aloof attitude of The_Dougstar is (and many other proud to be a straight males), is pretty much the reason why there is so much denial and avoidance issues regarding homosexuality and homophobia in our society. They are afraid of the cold hard truth and it stings!
Firstly, It's The_Dougs
ter
. I never claimed to be a
star
. LOL! Secondly, why the attitude? How am I being aloof? And who the hell is claiming to be "proud to be straight"? I just never got the vibe that Cruise is gay. There's no "cold hard truth that stings" me. What a bunch of sanctimonious crap!
Deep down inside, it triggers of an aspect of themselves that they have not wanted to acknowledge and they want their masculine dominated ego's under control and reigned in.
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rascal67 — 12 years ago(December 19, 2013 10:20 PM)
Firstly, It's The_Dougster.
Don't you think The_Dou@hster would be more appropriate?
There's no "cold hard truth that stings" me. What a bunch of sanctimonious crap!
Whatever! You are just protecting your own over nurtured ego and sense of masculinity. You are deeply, deeply asleep if you can't see the obvious.
You can spare me your pseudo-psychiatry as well.
Thats ok! It is up to you how and if you process the information. My consultations are for free.
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rascal67 — 12 years ago(December 20, 2013 01:43 PM)
Sorry, did you say something?
Actually, I have said a lot. The little snooze face, only proves my point.
You're a condescending prick trying analyze a total stranger to make yourself feel smarter than you actually are.
So you are saying then you are actually smarter than me, because you then know better. Who is being the condescending one? It works both ways you know. It's obvious my analysis has pushed a button..but that was my intention.
Now you can and your SimplemindedF_ckboy can both discuss how I "process the information". By putting both of your sanctimonious asses on ignore! Tha2000nks for the consultation and have fun jerking off to Tom Cruise.
What a coward! Upset by the challenge so placed on ignore.typical! No great loss, because you are boring anyway and don't really have anything to say that is worthwhile listening too.
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SimplemindedSociety — 12 years ago(December 20, 2013 02:39 PM)
'Now you can and your SimplemindedF_ckboy can both discuss how I "process the information". By putting both of your sanctimonious asses on ignore! Thanks for the consultation and have fun jerking off to Tom Cruise.'
You brought me into this battle? I wasn't involved in your argumentI don't engage your type. Maybe jerking off to Cruise is what YOU do in private. -
FuzzyWzhe — 13 years ago(September 08, 2012 07:22 PM)
If she hadn't hooked up with Cruise she would have done The Dark Knight as Rachel and that would have propelled her into over 1 million a picture. But Cruise talked her out of Dark Knight and into Mad Money..
It was the Batman Begins that killed her career. She was absolutely terrible in it. She was so bad that Maggie Gyllenhaal was brought in to play the same character to replace her. There's no way that Nolan wanted to bring her back. The whole fantasy that Cruise kept her out of it is silly. Get onto the Batman Begins board, and you'll find a lot of people complaining about Holmes' acting.
Her marriage to that nut probably had more to do with business acumen than any sort of actual real relationship. He didn't hold her back, she latched onto some crazy nutcase to further her career, in my opinion. But who knows really other than her and him? -
jawsh90 — 12 years ago(May 05, 2013 10:41 AM)
I agree. If you look at Nicole K5b4idman's career, it got much better after she divorced Tom Cruise. I think Katie's career will continue to get bigger than it was before, even though then it was pretty good being on Dawson's Creek. If she was just a couple of years older, she would've played Buffy, and if that got as big as it did, her career would've been set and she probably would've never married Tom Cruise. Personally i'm glad she left Tom, you know there's something wrong when two women leave a man, and are willing to give them everything except their children.
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Parker700 — 13 years ago(July 18, 2012 01:32 PM)
It's tough to say where she'd be today if not for TC but we know that at 26 she was doing what are considered supporting roles when she landed quality films. On top of that Batman isn't necessarily a career turner (ask Maggie) unless you play a villain and those parts are given to actors already very acclaimed. We know that she was nixed from Nolan's 2nd installment by higher-ups due to TomKats inappropriate, unprofessional display at the premier (see other Katie/Batman thread for quotes).
Cruise hasn't exactly helped her career, only time will tell if he hurt it much.
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Parker700 — 13 years ago(September 04, 2012 06:27 PM)
As I recall they were being demonstratively affectionate, as in advertising their engagement rather than Holmes supporting Nolan's film as any and I mean
any
professional would. Tom may have even signed autographs, don't remember. She was replaced by Maggie G.
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zooymtoo — 13 years ago(July 19, 2012 01:53 PM)
I think marrying Cruise hurt her career. She was very popular in Dawson's Creek and seemed slated to move on up in the business. But after the marriage she made compromises and everyone publicly marginalized and discounted h5b4er.
Time will tell if her career picks back up. but after being in the spotlight in such a negative way she may not desire all that fame after all.
Who could blame her?
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Marlene_Misses_DWE — 13 years ago(July 19, 2012 11:41 PM)
I agree.
Her claim to even more fame is divorcing the same guy.
But at last Tommy Gurl might get an idea in his way of what it feels like to get
disposed of quietly and without sorrow."
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beja-4 — 13 years ago(July 20, 2012 08:53 AM)
I agree with itsaconundrum because I too actually think she probably would've been a bigger star if she haven't married Tom. She didn't need him to become famous.
There's not only Dawson Creek and Batman on her map. Haven't anyone seen her in any others movies? I've watched her in Ice Storm, Wonderboys where she is really great, Go, Phone Booth, Batman Begins and in The Kennydys where she was amazing. In fact, I've kept an eye on her more during her career than I did on Cruise and I'm a woman.
I haven't seen 'Abandon' and I know it has low ratings, definitely not the best movie made. But I think I'll rent it for the sake of Katie Holmes performance.
Roger Ebert about the movie:
"Enough of this. The movie finally did not satisfy me, and so I cannot recommend it,
but there is a lot to praise, beginning with Katie Holmes' performance as Catherine Burke, a smart and articulate student who is on the fast track to a corporate boardroom.
She's a student at an unnamed university (McGill in Montreal provided the locations), has just aced an interview with a big firm, studies hard, doesn't date."
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fiatlux-1 — 13 years ago(September 28, 2012 12:01 AM)
I haven't seen 'Abandon' and I know it has low ratings, definitely not the best movie made. But I think I'll rent it for the sake of Katie Holmes performance.
'Abandon' is a good film. I own it on DVD & have watched it many times. I was surprised that Katie Holmes could carry a film, but she does and does it well.
Its not a perfect film, but I like it a lot. It doesn't really deserve its low ratings.
As for whether Katie's marriage hurt her career, I would have to say yes.
Before people even knew about that Scientology mess, they seemed to view the couple as a dirty 'old man' marrying a 'teen'. That was the way it seemed even to me, he seemed much too old for herin age AND personality, if that makes sense.
Then the Scientology began..and Katie changed. And she all but disappeared off people's popularity lists after that.
I, for one, hopes she gets herself back together again. I like her as an actress.
"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
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slavicfish — 13 years ago(July 21, 2012 02:02 AM)
Yes I totally agree with you. She is nothing special, honestly Michelle Williams was the most talented DC actor, the others are just generic. And Pieces of Aprilwas AWFUL, so don't tel me she had some aspiring Indie career ahead of her. As for all of her other moviesI pretty much hate them or she was my least favorite character (Thank you for smoking, Batman Begins). People blame Tom Cruise for her failure to appear in the sequel to Batman, but I honestly feel the higher ups recognized she wasn't the star grabbing quality the needednot that Maggie Gyllenhaal is much better, but Katie is justboring? I've never met anyone who says "Oh I just LOVE Katie Holmes"she has Tom to thank for the continuation of publicity and any roles she receives thereafter because with the pool of talented attractive actresses out there, she is definitely at the bottom. Only reason she gets roles here on out is because of mass public recognition from her high profile marriage/divorce. Fact!