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rucuk3000 — 20 years ago(April 02, 2006 11:40 AM)
I like MJs music (Im not a major fan) and I like a few of r.kellys tracks. The proof is there of the wrongness they have done but I will still download their music and it enjoy it, That does not mean I support what they have done and nor will I.
If mj and rk enjoy doing things like this so much perhaps they should rellocate to where it is allowed.
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sharminchowdhury — 19 years ago(April 19, 2006 03:58 PM)
There are other parts of the world where 14 year olds are allowed to engage in sexual acts and I think those are wrong too. The problem I have is that R.Kelly is getting away with it so easily. I mean it's definitely him in the video. Other americans wouldn't get away with it so why should he even if you don't think what he commited was a crime he was still dong something against the law.
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bestintheworld82 — 19 years ago(August 21, 2006 10:56 AM)
Stfu Stickyfingaz. I don't care what other parts of the world don't have a problem with it its still sick and wrong. Its called emotional and physical abuse. Look it up son.
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gaeanprayer — 18 years ago(August 05, 2007 06:16 AM)
Wow, this one's a bit of a moron, eh?
8 years ago, I was 14. That's not a very long time, and I point this out because I don't want the argument that things are 'different now'. When I was in school being the slut was NOT cool. The popular girls were the 'pure', the virgins, the teases. Whether or not they were actually virgins is up for discussion but that's not the point. Whoever told you it's necessary to go screw anything that moves to be cool deserves to get pushed in front of a train, and frankly you could use a good smack around for believing it.
I, for one, didn't do ~anything~ until I was 17 and I never had a problem with it in school. In fact, the only person I know that had a problem would be a girl that was caught giving a BJ in the stair tower, and afterwards she spent the rest of her high-school life isolated and hated.
But above all this? You don't know a damn thing at 14 and hell, you don't really know anything even at 18. You might think you do, but you don't. A 30+ year old man, however, knows plenty. Certainly a hell of a lot more than a girl still going through puberty. When you take advantage of someone underage you disrupt the way they age; they learn and deal with emotional and physical problems that should have been years away. You basically kill the person they would have become and change them forever. THAT is why there is an age limit. The age of consent laws are there to give boys and girls a chance to grow into men and women before they are forced to deal with all the beep the world will throw at them.
If you can't respect that, you deserve to be behind bars too.
Oh and, just because 14 is legal in some countries doesn't mean it's okay. Some asian countries prostitute 8 year olds and it is legal; does that make it okay? Obviously, not. -
quaasheezy — 17 years ago(March 22, 2009 08:46 PM)
Anything before that, and they are classified as children
unless they kill someone. then everyone drops the charade and acknowledges that they should be held responsible for their own actions. that's why 11 year olds are tried as adults. -
quaasheezy — 16 years ago(January 19, 2010 09:42 AM)
A person who is less than 18 years of age is considered a juvenile under Colorado law. If charged with a crime, he or she is treated differently than an adult.
another quick google search found this story of a 14 year old tried as an adult in colorado and this is less than a month old. so, there is the law that's on the books, and the law that's practiced in real life.
http://www.alamosanews.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=72&story_id=15206
Assuming your an adult, can you honestly say you thought as clearly @ 12 as you do now?
i know i never murdered anybody at 12, lol. but at 15 like the girl in this case, you most certainly have to be responsible for your actions. because if a 15 year old killed someone, no one would have pity for them then. -
quaasheezy — 16 years ago(March 09, 2010 06:31 AM)
Furthermore, I know at 15 I did a lot of stupid stuff that I woulnd never have done at 18, and even then, at 18 did a lot of stupid stuff I wouldn't do now (at 28).
is that were it ended, or did you also do stupid stuff in your 20s that you probably won't do in your 30s? there's probably stuff you'll do in your 30s that you won't do when you're in your 50s, right? using this line of logic undesirable behavior can forever be excused.
i'm not sure if you're purposely being misleading or just misunderstood, but the statistics you provided do not speak to the topic of conversation at all. first of all they only include judicial wavers and do not include statutory exclusion or concurrent jurisdictions. second, they include all juveniles, which is anyone under 18, when we were speaking very sp111cecifically about 15 year olds. of course the numbers are going to be drastically skewed if your data includes 5 year olds.(because unfortunately, we do arrest 5 year olds in america, lol). lastly, these numbers are from 1994! this was almost two decades ago. in 1994 schwarzenegger was still top at the box office, boyz II men were ruling the charts, and white people still liked oj.
at 15 in the u.s. you can legally operate a motor vehicle, you can even get married. hell, at 15(younger even) you can be detained by the us department of defense as an enemy combatant. i know you're just playing devil's advocate, but the fact remains if you're 15 and you're getting pissed on by r kelly it's because you want to be pissed on by r kelly, not because you don't know any better. -
quaasheezy — 15 years ago(June 10, 2010 01:13 PM)
- i'm glad we agree that the statistics provided are completely irrelevant. i'm not interested in statistics anyway, but rather opinions of real people, like yourself.
- funny story, we've all done stupid stuff. but what you didn't admit to yourself then is the same thing you're not admitting now. you knew very well what you were doing then was ethically wrong. you very well knew what you were doing was illegal. no one who is old enough to steal and operate a motor vehicle does not understand the concept of stealing.
As far as I'm concerned (and in many cases, as too the law) a 5yr old and a 15yr old is the same.
this is just something one would say on a message board, not something one actually believes. as your previous posts have demonstrated your intelligence, i simply can not believe that you actually believe this.
4. indeed they are not.
my issue is with the lack of accountability arguments, not arguments specifically dealing with r kelly. i like his music, but i think we16d0 all agree he's pretty stupid. i mean if you're filming yourself committing crimes jail is probably somewhere in your future.
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xxReBeCcAxxx — 19 years ago(May 27, 2006 11:29 AM)
i am a 14 yr old girl i have never done anything shamefull with a guy but were i am from most of my frinds have gone all the way so i am not really surprised. still doesn't excuse his behavior though !!!!!!
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Trapstar6 — 19 years ago(May 31, 2006 08:29 AM)
I was just telling someone on another website that these girls now a days are more developed than some older women. Im not saying You cant tell that they are young but It's a everyday thing I pull over cuz I see a chick thika than a snicka just to find out she's like 15. I have will power to just walk away but I still leave thinking damn I want to hit that. Its a couple chicks that live in my building that are like 14- 15 years old that come at me. and they got body like Beyonce. I cant wait until they 18 so I can plug em. However its a stuggle with myself to just say no, I'll wait these 3-4 years out, I got to much to loose. Men ought to feel what im saying if you real with yourself. You can say im a pervert all you want. I dont care. Cuz I never had sex with these lil girls. I just look at it as a future investment. I know one day my daughter is going to grow up and be 15 and some old grown ass man gone look at her the same way. It's life.
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sexy_cinderella — 19 years ago(July 01, 2006 06:48 AM)
It is life, you are right, i can remeber being 14/15 and having grown men looking at me. of course men are going to find young girls attractive especially as they look so much older now but like you, they should know better and walk away. Just beacuse a 14 year old looks older, acts older does not give a grown man the right to take advantage of that. I respect your honesty at saying you find young girls attractive, of course you do BUT the difference is leaving them alone or doing something about it. What R. Kelly did was wrong, if he'd just admired this girl and walked away then fair enough but he didn't so he is guilty and should be put away like any other man would be.