very disrespectful on the apprentice.
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marbleann — 15 years ago(April 25, 2010 11:14 PM)
Just one point to make. Women can be sexist against other women. I find at times women are harder on other women then anybody. We our own worst enemy. Sometimes woman see things through man's eyes who are sexist and they carry on how they believe and think. So I am not commenting if a someone in this thread is sexist. But it is a very fool-hearty defense to say a women cannot be sexist against other women. Some of the biggest fighters against women rights are women and that is how and why we will never have equity because of women who are sexist and give credence to the men who want to keep us down 5b4by supporting their beliefs.
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sugarstrawberries13 — 15 years ago(April 27, 2010 01:19 PM)
Are you beep kidding? Because she's BLACK? Who said anything about ethnicity? And don't find faults in the other women? Maybe it's because it's her board this forum is on, and this topic is directly about Holly? Jesus, and you think she's perfect and nice on the show? Well you need to get your eyes checked and stop letting your affection for her get in the way of her true actions.
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virenironhawk — 15 years ago(May 23, 2010 10:28 PM)
I just want to say this. My problem with Holly has nothing to do with color. My issue was and is, she has control issues. She keeps everything so controlled that at times, she sacrifices creativity. As a mother with an autistic child, this likely stems from the need to keep an absolute control over scheduling and the conditions in the home. But this has had a negative impact on her overall career and she has worked more low key projects. She is a decent actress, but I think she has always had some issues with the creativity. That is why Johnny Depp was able to overshadow her and went on to major stardom. He took chances and was never concerned with holding himself back.
Now as a business woman, I am sure she does a solid job. But this show was about bringing the star treatment and she had issues with letting go. Cyndi needed reigning in, she has a fine business sense but when time is of an essence, she is not effective. Sharon is absolutely awesome and bold as brass and you will never wonder where you stand with her, I respect that. Holly was right when Cyndi was barking at the staff in remodel assignment, Cyndi was rude. But maybe there is a way to say that and not spread the rudeness on.
In the end, Holly could not even bring it when talking about her son and being autistic. It is hard to connect with someone who is reading notes when talking about her personal experience. Holly, honey, put the notes down and speak from the heart- the way bret did.
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the_zookeeper — 15 years ago(May 23, 2010 10:54 PM)
Whoa. I'm with you!
What bothered me about her this season on the Celebrity Apprentice was that she had no problem turn-coating on people. What I was witnessing was someone who would take the rug right out from under someone else if she thought it would benefit her.
In the business world, you need to be aggressive, but I have watched my mom do business for thirty years. Integrity is non-paralleled among peers. If you do a project with someone, and then that person makes a point of putting herself ahead of you in the boardroom at any cost, it reduces moral all around.
She has aged well, though. I have to say, she looks wonderful.
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MariMcCabe — 15 years ago(November 12, 2010 07:27 PM)
I just want to say this. My problem with Holly has nothing to do with color. My issue was and is, she has control issues. She keeps everything so controlled that at times, she sacrifices creativity. As a mother with an autistic child, this likely stems from the need to keep an absolute control over scheduling and the conditions in the home. But this has had a negative impact on her overall career and she has worked more low key projects. She is a decent actress, but I think she has always had some issues with the creativity.
That is why Johnny Depp was able to overshadow her and went on to major stardom. He took chances and was never concerned with holding himself back.
That is bullshyt. You must be out of your mind if you really think a Black woman in Hollywood has the same career opportunities career as a White man.
Holly was on two more successful TV shows after Jump Street consecutively (Hangin' With Mr. Cooper and For Your Love). So what she didn't become a movie star. Neither did Depp [until the early 2000s with Pirates of the Caribbean]. In the 1990s he stayed away from the mainstream and only had two box office hits; Edward Scissorhands and Sleepy Hollow, both Tim Burton films.
Johnny Depp was clever enough to date women who had movie careers and were more famous than him (Jennifer Grey and especially Winona Ryder) to help him along. When Winona was too ill to do The Godfather III he was able to take advantage of that and get her to do Edward Scissorhands with him, which greatly increased the chances of the movie becoming successful (Winona had previously worked with Tim Burton and was very well liked). -
rannedwards — 15 years ago(April 05, 2011 08:27 AM)
Say what you will and point out the facts and still these people will disregard anything you have to say. THey have "their truthsbeliefs". They do not care about the facts.
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Gus-69 — 14 years ago(May 21, 2011 09:00 AM)
Holly was an excellent player and was a demanding and exacting project manager But she was a turn-coating bitch and a control freak. I was relieved when Bret Michaels won.
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ibl5000 — 10 years ago(April 17, 2015 12:23 AM)
21 Jump Street was a very popular sitcom especially if you were a teenager back then from 1987-1992. Hangin' With Mr Cooper was an extra solid tv sitcom as well. I never watched For Your Love but it lasted 5 seasons. Holly has put it down in the television world. She's far from a nobody