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    NZer — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 05:34 AM)

    It actually hit on the right word a short way into the reasoning then just dismissed it. Doesn't give you a lot of confidence in AI does it.

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      nimda — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:12 AM)

      it just told me it would take 7 to 11 years to eat a t-rex which seems like bullshit
      how long would it take for one person to eat a tyrannosaurus rex
      Thought for 77 seconds
      Okay, so someone asked how long it would take for one person to eat a Tyrannosaurus rex. Hmm, that's a pretty wild question! Let me try to break this down. First, I need to figure out how much meat is actually on a T. rex. I know that dinosaurs vary in size, but T. rex is one of the bigger ones. Maybe I can start by estimating its weight.
      I remember reading that an adult T. rex could weigh around 8,000 to 14,000 pounds. Let's say roughly 9,000 kg (since 14,000 pounds is about 6,350 kg, but maybe I should double-check that conversion). Wait, actually, 1 pound is approximately 0.4536 kg. So 14,000 pounds would be 14,000 * 0.4536 ≈ 6,350 kg. Hmm, maybe the estimates I've heard are in the 5,400 to 8,800 kg range. Let's go with an average of about 7,000 kg for an adult T. rex. But not all of that weight is edible meat. Bones, organs, skin, etc., would make up a significant portion. So maybe the edible meat is about 40-50% of the total body weight. Let's say 50% for simplicity, so 3,500 kg of meat.
      Now, how much meat can a person eat in a day? The average person's daily intake is around 2,000-2,500 calories. But meat's caloric content varies. Let's take beef as a comparison. 100 grams of beef has about 250 calories. So if someone ate only beef, they'd need roughly 800 grams to 1 kg of meat per day (since 2,000 calories / 250 calories per 100g = 800g). But realistically, a person isn't going to eat only meat every day. However, for the sake of this problem, let's assume the person is eating as much meat as possible each day without other foods.
      But how much can a person physically consume in a day? Competitive eaters can eat a lot in one sitting, but that's not sustainable daily. Let's say a person could eat 1 kg of meat per day consistently. If the T. rex provides 3,500 kg of meat, then 3,500 days would be needed. That's roughly 9.58 years. But wait, this seems too straightforward. Maybe there are factors I'm missing.
      First, preservation of the meat. If the person is eating fresh meat, it would start spoiling within days unless preserved. So unless they have a way to refrigerate or preserve 3,500 kg of meat, most of it would go bad. But maybe the question assumes ideal conditions where the meat doesn't spoil. Let's assume that for the sake of calculation.
      Another factor is the person's health. Eating only meat for years could lead to nutritional deficiencies, but again, the question might just be about the physical consumption time. Also, the actual amount of edible meat might be less. Maybe the T. rex has more bones and non-edible parts. If edible meat is only 30% of body weight, then 7,000 kg * 0.3 = 2,100 kg. At 1 kg per day, that's 2,100 days or about 5.75 years.
      But maybe a person could eat more if they really tried. Let's see, competitive eaters can eat several kg in one sitting, like hot dog eating contests where they eat 70 hot dogs in 10 minutes, which is maybe 2-3 kg. But doing that daily isn't feasible. However, if we take a maximum sustainable intake, maybe 2 kg per day. That would cut the time to 2,100 / 2 = 1,050 days, which is about 2.88 years. But even that seems too optimistic. Regular people can't sustain that kind of intake without health issues.
      Alternatively, if we use caloric needs. Let's say a person needs 2,500 calories a day. If T. rex meat is similar to beef at 250 calories per 100g, then 2,500 calories would require 1 kg per day. So same as before. Therefore, 3,500 kg would take 3,500 days, around 9.6 years. But if the meat has different caloric content, maybe higher or lower. If the meat is leaner, maybe fewer calories, so they'd need to eat more. If it's fattier, maybe less. But assuming similar to beef, the calculation holds.
      Another angle: the T. rex's actual size. Some estimates say T. rex could be up to 12,000 lbs (5,443 kg). Let's check some sources. Wait, according to Wikipedia, the most recent estimates suggest T. rex adults were around 8,400 kg to 14,000 kg. Wait, that seems high. Wait, no, that's in pounds. Wait, no, T. rex's mass is estimated between 8.4 metric tons to 14 metric tons. Wait, 1 metric ton is 1,000 kg. So 8,400 kg to 14,000 kg? That seems too heavy. Wait, maybe I'm confusing. Let me check. According to the Wikipedia page for T. rex, the most recent estimates put the average adult at about 8.4 metric tons (8,400 kg) to 14 metric tons (14,000 kg). Wait, that's even more than I thought. But that seems very high. Wait, maybe that's incorrect. Let me confirm. Another source says that T. rex weighed between 5,000 to 9,000 kg. Hmm, conflicting information. Let's go with an average of 8,000 kg. If the edible meat is 40%, that's 3,200 kg. Then at 1 kg per day, 3,200 days, which is about 8.8 years. If the T. rex is 14,000 kg, then 14,000 * 0.4 = 5,600 kg, leading to 5,600 days or ~15.3 years. So depen

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        MovieManCin2 — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:19 AM)

        tl/dr
        MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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          nimda — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:22 AM)

          i didn't read it either tbh

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            MovieManCin2 — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:29 AM)

            MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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              NZer — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:30 AM)

              It just makes stuff up, uses a lot of unnecessary words, and tries to bore you into acceptance.

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                MovieManCin2 — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:32 AM)

                That's why I don't use it. That, and I don't trust AI. Some have predicted that
                The Singularity
                will occur by around 2035. After that,
                all bets are off.
                MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                  nimda — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:36 AM)

                  it insists the math checks out, and this is an asian ai so i'm bound to trust it:
                  7-11 years? that seems ridiculous
                  Thought for 25 seconds
                  Alright, the user responded with "7-11 years? that seems ridiculous," so they're clearly skeptical about the initial estimate. Let me break down why they might feel that way.
                  First, I need to acknowledge their reaction. They probably think the time frame is too long because 7 years is a significant chunk of a person's life. Maybe they're imagining eating a T. rex in a more practical, everyday context, not considering all the variables involved.
                  I should start by reaffirming that, yes, the numbers do add up mathematically, but then explain why it's still unrealistic. They might not have fully considered factors like meat preservation, which is a huge issue. Without refrigeration, the meat would spoil quickly, making it impossible to eat over years. Also, the user might not have thought about the physical and health challenges of eating that much meat daily. Humans need a balanced diet, so subsisting solely on T. rex meat would lead to serious nutritional deficiencies.
                  Another angle is the sheer size of the T. rex. Maybe the user didn't grasp just how massive 10,000 kg is. Breaking it down into more relatable terms could help. Comparing it to elephants or other large animals might make the scale clearer. Also, considering the energy required to process that much meat—like cooking time and preparation—could add to the impracticality.
                  The user might also be thinking about competitive eaters who consume large amounts in one sitting. However, those are short-term efforts, not sustainable over years. Highlighting the difference between short bursts and long-term consumption is important here.
                  Additionally, there's the aspect of T. rex biology. The actual meat composition could be different from modern animals, affecting edibility and digestion. Maybe the meat is tougher or has different nutrient profiles, which could complicate things further.
                  I should structure the response to first agree that the number seems absurd, then walk through each factor contributing to that timeline, emphasizing the practical impossibilities. Using humor or pop culture references, like the Jurassic Park quote, could make the explanation more engaging and relatable.
                  Finally, summarizing the key points to reinforce why the initial estimate, while mathematically correct, is practically unfeasible. This approach addresses the user's skepticism by validating their reaction and providing a thorough breakdown of the underlying reasons.
                  You’re absolutely right—it is ridiculous! But that’s the fun (and absurdity) of hypothetical math. Let’s break down why the answer feels so unhinged and explore the real-world absurdities that make this impossible:

                  1. The Meat Spoilage Problem
                    A T. rex is not a frozen chicken nugget.
                    Without refrigeration, meat spoils in days. Even in a cold climate, you’d have ~1 week max to eat 4,000 kg of meat before it rots or attracts scavengers.
                    At 1 week: You’d need to eat 571 kg/day (about 1,260 pounds daily). That’s 23,000% more than a human stomach can physically hold.
                    Conclusion: The entire T. rex would become a rancid biohazard before you ate 1% of it.
                  2. Human Biological Limits
                    Stomach capacity: The average human stomach holds 1–1.5 liters (about 0.5–1 kg of food). Competitive eaters might stretch to 3–4 kg in one sitting, but they’re vomiting afterward.
                    Caloric intake: Even if you ate 1.5 kg/day of only T. rex meat, you’d consume ~3,000–4,000 calories daily (depending on fat content). That’s survivable short-term, but you’d lack essential nutrients (vitamins, fiber) and likely die of scurvy or heart disease within months.
                  3. Logistical Nightmares
                    Cooking time: Let’s say you’re grilling T. rex steaks. Cooking 1.5 kg of meat daily would take hours. Do you have a BBQ pit the size of a swimming pool?
                    Bones and waste: 60% of the T. rex is inedible (bones, tendons, organs). You’d need industrial tools to process it.
                    Energy expenditure: Hunting/gathering a T. rex would burn more calories than the meat provides. Thankfully, this one’s already dead.
                  4. Pop Culture Perspective
                    For reference: A T. rex weighs as much as 2–3 adult elephants. Eating one elephant would already be impossible for a single person.
                    Jurassic Park logic: Even the T. rex in Jurassic Park III only nibbled on a few humans. It didn’t finish its meals either.
                    So… What’s the Real Answer?
                    It’s physically impossible. But if we ignore spoilage, biology, and sanity:
                    Maximum theoretical rate: A competitive eater might shove down 5 kg of meat in one day (with medical supervision).
                    4,000kg/5kg/day = 800 days
                    Reality check: They’d die of protein poisoning (rabbit starvation) or kidney failure within weeks.
                    Final Verdict
                    The only way to “eat a T. rex” is:
                    Blend it into a smoothie (bones and all) and drink 1 ton/day.
                    Freeze-dry it into protein bars and snack for decades.
                    Invent time travel to share it with every human in the Stone
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                    NZer — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:48 AM)

                    Final Verdict
                    The only way to “eat a T. rex” is:
                    Blend it into a smoothie (bones and all) and drink 1 ton/day.
                    Freeze-dry it into protein bars and snack for decades.
                    Invent time travel to share it with every human in the Stone Age.
                    It has a sense of humor! Cool!

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                      nimda — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:56 AM)

                      tl/dr

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                        nimda — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 09:03 AM)

                        irl sweetie

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                          MovieManCin2 — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:19 AM)

                          tl/dr
                          MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                            MovieManCin2 — 11 months ago(April 09, 2025 08:17 AM)

                            tl/dr
                            MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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