Hugely over-rated
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — David Jason
NoodleMonster — 19 years ago(April 10, 2006 01:09 PM)
I am curious to see so much praise for Sir. David. In my opinion he is not that great an actor. He was good in Fools and Horses, showing excellent comic timing. However in serious roles I find him lacking in spirit and emotion.
Frost for example is very poor and when compared to John Thaw in Inspector Morse it really suffers. The plotting is weak and Jason's charachter has no nuances whatsoever, apart from his hat.
I am sure Sir. David is a lovely man but I think he is not really deserving of all the praise that comes his way. -
Cageybaby — 19 years ago(April 10, 2006 05:21 PM)
I am in total agreement NoodleMonster.
As much as I like Only fools and horses, Open all hours and Frost I still see, and hear, Del boy Trotter!
Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative - Oscar Wilde -
Edeline — 19 years ago(April 10, 2006 06:25 PM)
Well, thats your opinion, and youre more than entitled to it, but I personally think that Sir David Jason is one of the most talented and believable actors in Britain, regardless of whether hes doing comedy or drama. In fact, I actually prefer his serious dramatic work to his comedy shows. A Touch of Frost is unquestionably the finest crime show on television at the moment (surpassing Inspector Morse, in my opinion). If, NoodleMonster, you do not see any nuances in Jack Frosts character, then I might suggest that you havent been paying very close attention to the program.
I honestly donu0002b68t think its possible to over-rate Sir David as an actor. Hes one of the few true performers left in the industry, and the nation loves him!
Behold, the unbearable cuteness!!! -
Cageybaby — 19 years ago(April 12, 2006 09:49 AM)
There's no doubt that the nation does love David Jason but that doesn't take away the fact that every character he plays is the same!
For instance:
when I see Nicholas Lyndhurst in Goodnight sweetheart I forget he aslo plays Rodney Trotter, when I see Geoffrey Hughes in Keeping up appearances I forget he once played Eddie Yeats in Coronation street butwhen I see David Jason in
The darling buds of may, frost and his many ot5b4her roles I still see Del Trotter!
David Jason is an actor and that's all he is, just another actor and there are many more who will agree with myself and NoodleMonster.
Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative - Oscar Wilde -
film_critixc__234234 — 19 years ago(April 19, 2006 05:44 AM)
david jason is an excellent actor. however, i too everytime i watch something with him in it think it is del boy. for example open all hours. watching it again i just cant see david jason with a northern accent. BUT he is an amazing actor.
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Wanizame — 19 years ago(April 21, 2006 08:56 AM)
David Jason is awesome.
Thatw was good but boring even in Frost which is generally darker then Morse (the most boring show on earth) he manages to inject some of hiss own humour.
so Noodlemonster with all due respect.
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Cageybaby — 19 years ago(April 21, 2006 12:27 PM)
Why oh why oh why can't fans take constructive critiscism about their favourite stars????
I am so tired of hearing fans going on about how much they love EVERYTHING their star does.
It's so bloody sycophantic.
I am a fan of Nicolas Cage, I admire the man and his work so much but there is some of his work/movies which I think are terrible!!!!
I don't get on my high horse if someone critiscises Nic's work and I think our favourite stars would prefer us to be honest about their work and not a bunch of a*$£ lickers!
Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative - Oscar Wilde -
Meabhy — 19 years ago(April 29, 2006 09:40 AM)
Oh I definitely agree with you Cageybaby. It's true, just because you're a fan of a certain actor or actress, doesn't mean you have to like every single thing they do!
Anyway, I was going to say, although David Jason's characters in 'Only fools and horses' and 'The darling buds of may' have some similarities, I still forget that som5b4etimes when I am watching him. I think also, that i prefer his comedy roles to the more serious ones. -
saxonman63 — 19 years ago(July 02, 2006 06:40 PM)
I think the following just about sums up noodlemonster and his cronies.
"Those that can, do. Those that can't? They spend their time talking crap about something they don't have the talent to achieve".
His success and numerous awards from his peers and public alike speak for themselves. You say that his characters are all similar. How is Del Boy anything like Frost? How is Frost anything like Pop Larkin?? Try reading the books on which the two latter characters are based to see how brilliantly David Jason has brought them to life. Still, I suppose it's easier to post uniformed cynical soundbites than to actually put some thought into your viewpoint. No actor or actress has ever had total success in everything they have done. Not one. David Jason is no different but that doesn't mean he's hugely over-rated. He at least learnt his craft in the theatre and succeeded because he has talent - and not because he has a large pair of plastic breasts with little talent or brains behind them.
I suggest you stick to reading your copies of Jade goody's or Jordan's account of their talentless little lives. Sounds more like your cup of tea. -
notsingleanymore — 19 years ago(July 13, 2006 05:47 PM)
I think everyone as their own opinions about David Jason and if we all agreed, then it would be a boring world!
I find Only Fools and Horses, without a doubt, THE best comedy there is (though UK Gold and its endless repeats of the show, like other comedies, makes it stale - God I know every word of every episode now).
Jason is a talented, wonderful actor with brilliant comic timing (which is what you need - like Ronnie Barker). However, he hasnt been successful in most programmes but that doesnt take away is genius. In A Bit Of A Do, he seemda0ed lost and every episode seemed the same.
But his greatest work is Open All Hours, which started it all off for him really. Even in Porridge (again working with Ronnie), he played an older character but was wonderful to watch.
I own all the Touch of Frost DVD's but I don't compare him to his other characters (like Del Boy). I just watch the drama and excitement of it all. Like I say, it's the average actors that get more acclaim these days. I don't read books on Jordan or Jade Goody (what have they EVER done)? But I will read autobiographies on people who have actually worked all their life and left a mark on the Nation. -
labortius — 19 years ago(August 02, 2006 05:39 PM)
I would point out that you shouldn't observe David Jason isn't a great actor, and then use as an example the poor plotting of the Frost TV series. The script is not the actor's fault! Have issues with them both, sepereately, if you want, but you can't blame one for the other (unless they're writing and starring, usually a bad idea, Mr Allen)