Actually Indians aren't racists till it comes for interracial marriages/dating. It's a very big deal in family if one of
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afro_747 — 17 years ago(September 01, 2008 07:05 PM)
I am a Black female, and I have dated an Indian man, and he was very passionate and intuitive. Most of the Indians that live around me are rich, arrogant doctors that will flip out if you park your $20K car next to their $50K car, and I expressed distaste daily to Vijay about them.
Are you a light skinned black female ?
We both shared racist views on Blacks/Indians/Whites/Asians/Latinos, ect and it was a huge learning experience. His parents of course preferred him to have an Indian woman, but they always treated me with respect, and I can say he was one of the best boyfriends I ever had.
Sharing racists views against those poor darkies along w1c84ith being accepted by Indian parents, are you a light skinned black female ?
His parents were better than another Indian parent who had his son's black wife killed. The case came to light and is posted on you tube.
Yes, Indian and Asian cultures are traditionally extremely conservative, but there are exceptions to every rule, and those exceptions can be wonderful people.
"Extremely conservative" is a nice way of saying it. India is a caste obsessed society. Caste bias rules. With the above mentioned murder in view, I'd say their behavior towards blacks mirrors that towards the so called "lower castes" in India.
I believe the East Asians have their own racial supremacism. Extremist beliefs led Japan to behave in horrid ways during WWII.
But our worst enemy is ourselves. More Black men have come out the side of their mouth at me than White men, and it all boils down to perspective.
Color prejudice is a world thing. Many brown and black people are buy into this and are prejudiced against their own. This can lead them to act badly towards their own, even their women. Some even turn on their people, or their blackness, in some extreme way a la Michael Jackson and these can be called "self-hating." -
Sawyersauce — 18 years ago(February 01, 2008 08:01 AM)
i think this indian, black and white thing is overdated. The view is very outdated. People are free and more socially accepted to marry who they want. Parminder Nagra is dating someone white so who really cares. Im indian but HALF my family are english.SoWhopee! ONE WORLD!:D
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sokkertenngrl-1 — 17 years ago(August 06, 2008 06:01 AM)
To this day and age, Indian parents would not prefer for their child to marry outside of their own race especially black or muslims. Yes, the skin color does play a big role; a lot of Indians I know would rather marry an indian of lighter skin than one who's skin is dark. Indian parents forbid one to marry muslims for obvious reasons. The Hindu-Muslim battle is an ongoing factand being a Hindu Indian myself, I would not marry a Muslim. I know that is a very strong statement to make, but I cannot upset my parents as they have given me all the liberality I need. They wouldn't disown me, they would just be disappointed. Also, I don't agree with the Islam religion since both these two religions are so prominent in an individual's life, there are bound to be big clashes. And, this couple would face extreme torture from everyone in both societies.
As for Indians marrying blacks, that is also frowned upon by numerous families. African Americans are not given a good perception here in America everything you see about them has to do with crime, sex, drugs, thug, etc. There are very seldom blacks in America who actually don't fit into these categories. Blacks, in other countries, however, that's a different perception as well. Also, it's not just Indians disliking blacks, blacks also dislike Indians for who knows what reason. These perceptions have largely been bred from history, and the imperialist whites who gave everybody some kind of mentality. It's funny how there are so manny black wannabes and white-wannabes amongst the indian american teens.
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afro_747 — 17 years ago(September 01, 2008 08:40 PM)
To this day and age, Indian parents would not prefer for their child to marry outside of their own race
Okay, India has colorism and religious differences can also prevent out marriage but what about the 2000 lb gorilla on table; what about India casteism ?
As for Indians marrying blacks, that is also frowned upon by numerous families. African Americans are not given a good perception here in America everything you see about them has to do with crime, sex, drugs, thug, etc. There are very seldom blacks in America who actually don't fit into these categories.
Come on, people around the world see these horrid images of black people. And yet, some still manage to deal with blacks fairly. Filipinos marry blacks more than any other Asian. And, even those Filipinos who prefer to marry white can still talk to us like we are human being. They aren't free of colorism but they don't seem to follow it in a rigidly hateful way to blacks either. So, the question is,
why do certain other cultures e.g. Japanese, Asian Indians, buy into racist imagery so completely ?
Japanese have their own views of racial purity, ultra-nationalism, and supremacism. What do Asian Indians have ? Isn't the answer caste thinking, caste purity ? Isn't caste purity the basis reason for Hindu arranged marriages ? Come on.
Also, it's not just Indians disliking blacks, blacks also dislike Indians
Most blacks in America are barely aware of Asian Indians and not a few think of the Native American when you say Indian. But, I expect, as Indian hostility becomes clearer, many will become hostile in return. I expect that is what happened in Africa and Trinadad also. But, blacks have no established cultural bias for Asian Indians to drive any such hostility besides; no convictions of purity based on race or caste. -
yazmnsmom — 17 years ago(September 18, 2008 11:29 PM)
Wow my husband and I are a rarety! My husband is East Indian and I am African American. I've always wondered how many couples have our exact combination. You mostly see (if at all) an African American male and East Indian female, never or hardly ever, an African American female and East Indian Male.
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andsan3 — 17 years ago(September 23, 2008 05:25 PM)
Vazmnsmom, I'm there with you! I, too, am an African American female married to a Punjabi Indian (man of course) (smiles) from New Delhi and we've been married for six years with a gorgeous daughter! Rare, we definitely are and our families love each other. There were never really cultural issues and quite honestly, we are living a fantastic life. He's a Ph.D and so am I. I truly can't figure out all the "sometimes" explicit drama on this thread. Several years since the original post, it's apparently still going strong! Cheers to you and to me, for showing the world that although rare, we are here! Sending you peace and happiness your way!
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noir-male — 17 years ago(September 25, 2008 03:01 PM)
I dont know what the actual statistics are, but at least here in the United States, Id bet that the East Indian - Black American marriage is probably the least common of all interracial marriages. About 10 years ago I worked with a very beautiful East Indian woman who was married to a Black man and thats the only Black East Indian relationship that I know of personally.
Im surprised that no one has brought up the case of the Indian father who had his daughter in law assassinated because she was Black. The couple had a baby girl and they killed the mother in front of the baby.
The sadist part is that after his wife was killed, the son remarried (to an Indian female this time) and (the last I heard) had removed himself completely from his little daughter life. The mothers family adopted her, but she has to grow up without knowing her mother or father.
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andsan3 — 17 years ago(September 26, 2008 03:44 AM)
I know exactly what you are referring to and that man and his son were some sick bastards! That guy didn't love the woman his dad had murdered because if he did, he would have done everything in his power to protect his murdered wife; especially knowing his dad was a racist and hateful son-of-a-bitch. Him fleeing from the US to go to India and marry his "own" validates he really didn't love the slain woman. In my opinion, he had a deranged fetish of our culture, the African American culture. This is highly degrading to our people and what we stand for and degrading to Sparkle's family. This woman was murdered in front of her infant child and his father hired hitmen to do just that. This pisses me off, hell yeah. I hope they both rot in hell for what they've done to Sparkle and her child.
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noir-male — 17 years ago(September 26, 2008 01:44 PM)
I find it hard to fault the new wife; from the accounts Ive read she didnt know about her husbands former wife or that he had a daughter. Id imagine with all the publicity surrounding the trail she would know by now. I wonder how she reacted when she found/finds out that shes married to a man who would abandon his own child.
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vinnychase — 17 years ago(October 05, 2008 11:49 AM)
I'm Indian/male and while my parents are not those conservative types that say no to any girl who is not Indian, I think that in the back of their minds they would be saying no if I ever dated a black girl. Personally I don't find black women attractive so they probably wouldn't need to worry about that, but I find it funny how my parent's probably wouldn't care if I dated a white girl. Probably because I have a quite a few family members/friends who are married to whites. And it really has nothing to do with skin tone either though, my entire family is light skinned to the point where people think we're either Italian/French, it's just I've never really been interested in black women.
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southpaw2k1 — 17 years ago(October 05, 2008 07:13 PM)
^What if the black woman has the complexion of Alicia Keys or Jasmine Guy? Would that be more acceptable? I'm just asking because, if a few family members of yours are married to whites, and almost all of them are light in tone, then maybe, it really does have to do with skin toneat least a
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