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    comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 08:02 PM)

    That and 'Pacific Rim' had a benefit of having almost no offensive sex/racist/drug jokes that plagued 'Transformers' series - particularly the second one.
    I mean technically Michael Bay is actually not a bad filmmaker, but Pacific Rim is probably more coherent in a lot of different categories when compared to Transformers.
    I could also easily argue with him that a lot of Spielberg films are style over substance, especially 'The Adventures of Tintin'.
    I guess del Toro is more like Steven Spielberg. Both directors mostly make "good" films and make "great" or "outstanding" films from time to time.
    Heck I could make the argument that Peter Jackson is overreliant on CGI because of The Hobbit. It goes both ways for any director.
    I don't know if I'd put del Toro in the same category as Spielberg. del Toro tends to write the scripts for his films, and he usually makes un-audience friendly films. I mean it's amazing that Hellboy even got a sequel.
    I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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      Block-Busted — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 08:10 PM)

      I mean technically Michael Bay is actually not a bad filmmaker, but Pacific Rim is probably more coherent in a lot of different categories when compared to Transformers.
      And 'Pacific Rim' has a benefit of THIS:
      Heck I could make the argument that Peter Jackson is overreliant on CGI because of The Hobbit. It goes both ways for any director.
      I actually liked 'The Hobbit' trilogy a lot, but it was definitely style-over-substance series, which is why I give some credits to Jackson for making 'The Lovely Bones' even if it didn't turn out all that well.
      I don't know if I'd put del Toro in the same category as Spielberg.
      Maybe they're not in a same category, but they do share THAT kind of similarity.
      del Toro tends to write the scripts for his films, and he usually makes un-audience friendly films. I mean it's amazing that Hellboy even got a sequel.
      Hey, now. 'Pacific Rim' is an audience-friendly film that looks like an MCU film - in good ways, of course.

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        comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 09:33 PM)

        And 'Pacific Rim' has a benefit of THIS:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNzGvBJkVtk
        EPIC!!
        The Lovely Bones was excellent in terms of camera work and design, but as a story, it was really, really confused.
        Maybe they're not in a same category, but they do share THAT kind of similarity.
        I guess. del Toro is a bit more gruesome and out there then Spielberg is, though.
        Hey, now. 'Pacific Rim' is an audience-friendly film that looks like an MCU film - in good ways, of course.
        Yeah, shame we probably aren't getting a sequel though.
        I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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          Block-Busted — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 09:38 PM)

          EPIC!!
          End credit sequence ALWAYS make the film much better than it is.
          Even 'The Last Airbender' had a great end credit sequence, which was actually better than the entire film itself.
          The Lovely Bones was excellent in terms of camera work and design, but as a story, it was really, really confused.
          I would definitely not write it off as a "total failure" though. The acting was great, visuals were great, and production values were great.
          And Brian Eno's soundtrack is highly underrated.
          I guess. del Toro is a bit more gruesome and out there then Spielberg is, though.
          Hey, Spielberg made 'Schindler's List', so that evens them out.

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            comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 16, 2015 12:59 AM)

            End credit sequence ALWAYS make the film much better than it is.
            Even 'The Last Airbender' had a great end credit sequence, which was actually better than the entire film itself.
            End credit sequence usually make me excited. I think my favorite has to be Up.
            I would definitely not write it off as a "total failure" though. The acting was great, visuals were great, and production values were great.
            And Brian Eno's soundtrack is highly underrated.
            It was okay overall, I just found the story very disjointed, and yes Brian Eno's score was very good. Kinda mysterious-like.
            Hey, Spielberg made 'Schindler's List', so that evens them out.
            True, and real life horror is generally more scarier then fictional spook horror.
            I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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                Block-Busted — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 11:29 PM)

                Except Spielberg's worst film is received worse than del Toro's worst film. That does NOT mean that I'm discrediting Spielberg as a whole.

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                      comicman117 — 10 years ago(October 16, 2015 01:03 AM)

                      Fine, fine, fine! I don't mean to be rude or anything, I'm actually a very big fan of del Toro's, what I particularly enjoy about his style, is that he clearly has a love for the source material that he's adapting. Pacific Rim for example, might be a dumb robot movie in essence, but it's so much fun to watch, and if you're a fan of Kaiju films like I am, it's a blast.
                      He's also really good at creating mood. His three Mexican films, and even parts o5b4f the Hellboy movies have some pretty creepy imagery.
                      I wasn't waiting, I was just sitting and breathing. Got a problem with that?

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                        mandelkubb — 10 years ago(March 10, 2016 04:41 AM)

                        I totally agree with you, this man is really overrated. I didn't enjoy any movie made by him.

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