Is Elena and Caroline selfish?
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jordanjanellejoy — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 02:33 PM)
Thank you.
Bonnie's one selfish moment will guarantee her hate forever. It doesn't matter if it's weighed against the numerous times her friends have been selfish over the years. But then again, Bonnie, up until this point at least, was written to serve these people, so for her to finally think about herself might come across as "ungrateful" or "selfish".
I'm sorry, but anyone who comes to the conclusion that Bonnie's choice to be selfish for once even compares to her "friends" can kick rocks.
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ckwongau — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 02:58 PM)
What about that time , when Bonnie helped Silas to open the Expression Triangle .It almost kill a lot of people .
Bonnie was warned by many people about the danger of Silas , and she open the Tomb of Silas , and then for ananother selfish reson she helped Silias open the veil to the other side , for a brief period a lot of angry ghost from the other side were release .
Bonnie had disregarded the safety of the Entire World , when she helped Silas , because she wanted to bring Jeremy back from the dead . -
ckwongau — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:10 PM)
It was kind of related to Caroline
Silas needed to open an Expression Triangle , he needed to sacrifices 12 human , 12 vampire and 12 Witches.
12 witches was sent by bonnie Mother to purge Bonnie's evil Expression magic ,but they decided Bonnie was too dangerous and beyond help , the witches was going to kill Bonnie , but Caroline saved Bonnie , but they were all linked to gether , Caroline kill one , but led to the death of all 12 witches . -
ThinkBfourUSpeak — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:15 PM)
Silas needed to open an Expression Triangle , he needed to sacrifices 12 human , 12 vampire and 12 Witches.
Wasnt that Shane?
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Why did Silas needed the EXpression Triangle
O well forget I asked
.. the show is ending.
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ckwongau — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:25 PM)
Wasnt that Shane? .
Why did Silas needed the EXpression Triangle
Shane was working for Silas.
Silas wanted to die in peace , he didn't want to go to struck on the other side with Qetsiyah .
He wanted to use the Expression Triangle to destroy the barrier between the real world and the other side , then takes the cure and die in peace . -
jordanjanellejoy — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 03:27 PM)
After Jeremy died? When she was completely consumed by a deadly form of magic? The same magic that caused her to set her living room on fire while dreaming, and when she told Caroline, her only worry was her prom dress?
No one paid any attention to Bonnie that season, even though she was the most powerful being walking around, brainwashed and willing to drop the veil, which could've been catastrophic, she still wasn't a priority.
This was one of the only times that Bonnie was clearly being selfish, where she thought of she and Enzo's happiness above everyone else.
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ThinkBfourUSpeak — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 04:06 PM)
I dont know about selfish per se but I think Caroline was shallow from get go, Elena artifical, too goody good.
This is what I said I used the word shallow with Caroline. Artifical, too goody good with Elena. I am not sure where you got the impression that I used Shallow with Elena!
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imaneassi — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 04:10 PM)
artificioal,shallow and selfish aren't words you can use with Elena. Confused, messed up,.but definitly not any of the previous 3.She with Bonnie the most selfless character on the show and she's not fake , a hypocrite
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ThinkBfourUSpeak — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 04:18 PM)
I just told the OP my opinion.
You are entitled to yours.
She was def confused and messed up but I think she was artificial too not genuine and continuously tried to portray good image of her until she became a vampire. Someone even quoted some dialogues of her while she was with Stefan.
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ThinkBfourUSpeak — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 04:57 PM)
As a human Elena was always concerned with how other people would view her choices. When Caroline tried to get Elena to admit her feelings for Damon in 3x04 she says
"I can't Caroline. If I admit it, if I even thought it for just a second, what does that say about me?"
Also when Elena and Damon were dancing at the frat party in 4x04 she was having fun for the first time since becoming a vampire and what stopped her?
When she looked over and saw Bonnie judging the beep out of her. She denied her feelings for Damon to her friends, family and to herself bc she didn't want to love him. He was the "bad" choice, the "wrong" choice. In her mind Stefan was the choice she was supposed to make. Vampirism finally gave her the freedom to stop being that scared little girl and go after what she really wanted.
From another poster post.
Seems like she wanted to give a good impression about herself which is natural I guess like you said yesterday. Most teenagers want to portray a good impression.
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ThinkBfourUSpeak — 9 years ago(February 13, 2017 05:24 PM)
Hence I said
Seems like she wanted to give a good impression about herself
which is natural
I guess like you said yesterday. Most teenagers want to portray a good impression.
But she came off too strong. I dont like such people. Matter of opinion.
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