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    Scifi71 — 17 years ago(April 09, 2009 10:15 AM)

    I'd compare ZZ Vs. Tang Wei.
    Nah.
    Gong Li
    maggie Cheung
    Ziyi Zhang.

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      ElectricEye — 17 years ago(April 09, 2009 05:04 PM)

      Personally, I do1908n't like Gong Li that much I'd go your list up side down.
      Protective, Detective, Electric Eye

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        jnagarya-1 — 16 years ago(May 05, 2009 04:45 AM)

        Yeah: Gong Li's PUBLIC affair with the married Zhang Yimou which had to have HUMILIATED his wife was a real "class" act by a "role model".

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          jnagarya-1 — 16 years ago(May 05, 2009 04:38 AM)

          "She seems to want to go for all the glam, the roles that'll get her attention."
          It isn't only her decision. It is also the decision of the director.
          And NO ONE puts themselves in front of a movie camera who DOESN'T want attention.
          In short: jealousy distorts and omits inconvenient facts in order to personally attack. Jealousy insists that MOST actors DON'T seek attention which is obvious nonsense.

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            jnagarya-1 — 16 years ago(May 05, 2009 04:43 AM)

            "It's like being too lazy to actually put in the effort to make a quality interpretation of the character. It's upsetting. I kind of feel that way about Zhang Ziyi, especially in House of Flying Daggers when she dances. It seemed like they were just flaunting her skills as a dancer, although it was well done and interesting. I just don't get the impression that she challenges herself very much."

            1. Note that "they" are not all named "Zhang Ziyi". In other words, you are bashing her for a decision which was not her's alone.
            2. If you'd watch the "Making of" on "House of Flying Daggers" you'd see a clip of her PRACTICING the dance in "street clothes" OFF CAMERA. And if you listen to the commentary on the film itself, you'll hear her admitting mistakes, and speaking to how difficult particular parts were AND the kinds of WORK that's spelled W-O-R-K she did on the film.
            3. She learned English in order to do (such as) "Memoirs of a Geisha"; and her English continues to improve. THAT requires more of the same: W-O-R-K.
            4. She had to do lines in Japanese in "Princess Raccoon". THAT takes what is called W-O-R-K.
              ALL of that is about CHALLENGING herself.
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              thomvic — 13 years ago(July 06, 2012 07:25 PM)

              I think Ziyi Zhang is a very talented actress. She is charismatic and if you're going to work in the film industry - let's face it - there has to be something about you that will draw audiences to you. It's great to have someone in a profession who respects the quality of work of what they do. But come on - one of the main reasons we all work is to earn a living as well and if something comes your way that will pay handsomely then most people would consider it.
              It's just like Angelina Jolie doing so many actions roles - Tomb Raider, Wanted, Salt - many people say she goes for the same sort of roles - but then she does movies like Changeling and A Mighty Heart which shows what a great actress she is. Ziyi Zhang has done a lot of martial arts films but then she has done dramatic roles like Memoirs of a Geisha. If she wants to promote herself in the West then there is nothing wrong about it - that's where the money comes from after all.
              If I'm going to be in a profession, I of course want to do it as best as I can and respect the work I do but when it comes down to the crunch, you need to eat as well.

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                jnagarya-1 — 16 years ago(May 05, 2009 04:34 AM)

                Yeah: her public affair with married Zhang Yimou was "classy". One would think that legitimate class would include respect for his WIFE.

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                  CPOnetherlands — 16 years ago(June 13, 2009 05:11 PM)

                  Gong Li is class, beauty and charm?
                  The same Gong Li that had a highly publicized affair with Zhang Yimou, the scandal that ended their professional relationship in 1995. (They were reunited after 11 years in 2006 for Zhang's Curse of the Golden Flower.)
                  The same Gong Li that last year became a Singaporean citizen?
                  and people are angry with Zhang because she's a gold-digger engaged to a rich guy? What about Gong Li who married a RICH Singaporean tobacco tycoon, Ooi Hoe Soeng.
                  The IRONY is so delicious!

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                    lzlzy — 16 years ago(February 09, 2010 10:10 AM)

                    At least Gonng Li didn't pocket the earthquake donation money, at least Gong Li didn't fake news and fool public again and again, at least Gong Li is a much better actress than Ziyi Zhang. I like Gong Li much more than Zhang.

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                      rgr101 — 16 years ago(February 09, 2010 10:22 AM)

                      To be fair to Ziyi, none of the accusation levelled at her so far can be proven beyond doubt, though things are certainly moving against her..Until some solid evidences come into the public/justice department's possession, the safest option is to use the adjective "alleged" before the suppposed crime(s) perpetrated by Ziyi..

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                        lzlzy — 16 years ago(February 09, 2010 10:36 AM)

                        Then just simply show the account book please. It is regulated by law that a community charity should be transparent. It is just this simple. Hiding the account book for a charity is already illegal.

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                          Scifi71 — 16 years ago(February 09, 2010 11:56 AM)

                          How Gong Li and Ziyi conduct their careers are like night and day.

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                            Acropolisnow — 16 years ago(February 10, 2010 07:00 AM)

                            I'll say.

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                              peterhuenten — 18 years ago(April 09, 2008 01:34 AM)

                              I wonder about your opinion. If the Chinese hate Zhang Ziyi why she is elected again and again in China as one of hundred of the most beautiful and influential persons in the world?
                              For example:
                              China's Most Beautiful Person
                              Gong Li was voted as "China's most beautiful person" in a newspaper poll on May 20, beating Li Yuchun, Zhou Xun, and Zhang Ziyi into second, third and fourth place respectively.
                              http://asialove.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html
                              and here:
                              Chinese actress Gong Li (left) lands at 34 on the Top 99 Most Desirable Women of 2007, while Zhang Ziyi (right) ranks at 83
                              http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-02/05/content_5696952.htm
                              If the Chinese woul2000d detest her they shurely wouldn't elect her for rank 83 of hundred.
                              I know some women from China and they all adore Ziyi for her self-confidence and her strong will to walk her own way.

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                                Scifi71 — 17 years ago(April 28, 2008 07:13 PM)

                                ("If the Chinese hate Zhang Ziyi why she is elected again and again in China as one of hundred of the most beautiful and influential persons in the world?")
                                The PRESS decides that . Not "The people."

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                                  Thomas_Neville_Servo — 17 years ago(April 29, 2008 12:46 AM)

                                  Seriously, that's not decided by the people. Furthermore, beauty polls hardly equal popularity.

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                                    takiko-1 — 17 years ago(February 06, 2009 09:40 PM)

                                    People magazine really is a popularity contest. It's not who's most beautiful, because the list would stay pretty much the same from year-to-year. It depends on how much exposure and who gets a positive vibe when people 5b4buy things like magazines (by who's on the cover) or movie tickets (with the people that star in it).

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                                        fredgt28 — 17 years ago(June 03, 2008 09:41 PM)

                                        AMEN my brother. you said it all. Just another Asian female to satisfy disguisting Westerners asiaphiles. I bet the only reason why she got so famous in the west is because the media elite chose her as an example of a worldwide act to whitewash asian people. I think its a conspiracy and she thinks shes playing the game right, whereas one day, shes gonna get dumped or goes through a majob68r brakeup when the media elites dont need her anymore. Relax, in the future, the real market will be China, and as Chinese dont like seeing her or any new successors of her, western media will finally adjust their act to make films that suits the Chinese market. And that means no asiaphile male pursuing dragon ladies, no jungles and definitely no WMAF!
                                        Long Live China and the Communist Party!

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                                          Scifi71 — 17 years ago(June 04, 2008 05:10 AM)

                                          (I bet the only reason why she got so famous in the west is because the media elite chose her as an example of a worldwide act to whitewash asian people)
                                          Um. You know she became known in the west doing CHINESE martial arts films right? Crouching tiger and Hero.

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