Are these the top 5 worst Bond movies?
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j_w_pepper — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 11:48 AM)
I don't know what Damienracer wrote since he's on my ignore list, and therefore your "hurricane" comparison doubtless applies. And I don't even know which movie you're talking about. But nevertheless, no movie is "objectively" one of the better films of the series. Though it may be the favourite in most posters' feelings, meaning there is a sort of universal agreement, this still doesn't make the opinion "objective".
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RynoII — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 12:35 PM)
Well the main reason why I would definitely put QOS in my bottom five myself is because it suffers from illogical character decisions in the plot, and really really poor editing. The worst editing in the series by far.
TND has much better editing and a much better plot and villain for me. I wouldn't put OP as one of the worst. It's a by the numbers entry, even more so than other ones such as MR. But it does have some good individual moments in.
My personal bottom five, would probably be:- QUANTUM OF SOLACE
- A VIEW TO A KILL
- THUNDERBALL
- THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
- DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER/LIVE AND LET DIE (I can't decide which is worse).
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HugeDaiCottermee — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 02:58 AM)
Verily I say unto theecertainly NSNA and QoS should be included in not just the bottom 5 Bond movies but also among the worst films ever made (I would say QoS is the very worst in the history of cinema) As far as the remaining three in my bottom 5 I would place TMWTGG, FYEO and TWINE.
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psychocosmic-1 — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 03:52 AM)
Its really hard to decide the "worst" Bonds. Some here have no problems, but I think most Bonds are really fine movies, and words like "worst" and "baad" doesnt come natural to me. Even Quantum, cold, charmless, and neurotic as it looks, is really a suspenseful film all in all.
NSNA is clearly underachieving. But underdogs like DAF, TMWTGG, OP and AVTAK are gems to me. The "small sized" look in some Bonds dont bother me at all.
It s true that (my points/max 10)
AVTAK (8)
DAF (8)
LALD (7-)
NSNA (6)
DAD (6)
QOS (5+)
has many dislikers, and those who think these are the weakest.
These are the ones I am least interest in:
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Ronsin1976 — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 09:30 AM)
I say the following:
NSNA (the worst of any cinematic depiction pertaining to Bond, worse than Casino Royale(67') and worse than James Bond Jr.)
DAF (the worst of the Eon films)
DAD (absurd and ridiculous)
TMWTGG- (Boring and painful to watch Moore's fight scenes).
LALD- (Painfully Boring)
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sawfan1414 — 9 years ago(October 25, 2016 05:03 AM)
I'm surprised to see so much hate for Live and Let Die. Tomorrow Never Dies doesn't belong anywhere near a bottom 5, nor does TWINE. Both are underrated.
My bottom 5 are- A View to a Kill
- Never Say Never Again
- Quantum of Solace
- Octopussy
- Spectre or TMWTGG for the final slot.
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finslaw2 — 9 years ago(October 25, 2016 09:20 AM)
Consensus among the pseudo-fanbase would likely be:
MOONRAKER
A VIEW TO A KILL
DIE ANOTHER DAY
QUANTUM OF SOLACE
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
But real fans know it is really this:
Quantum of Solace
The World is Not Enough
Licence to Kill
Skyfall
Diamonds Are Forever
It is allowable however to swap in Spectre, The Living Daylights or Thunderball. But under no conditions are any of Moore's films to be touched. -
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RynoII — 9 years ago(October 26, 2016 01:52 AM)
Am I the only Bond fan who puts TWINE in my top 5? It's so hated by many. I think it was one of the better plots.
As for NSNA being "unofficial", it's still a James Bond movie starring Sean Connery, so I still think of it as one. Not every Bond movie adapted from Fleming's character, has to be made by EON.
I mean when it comes to movies featuring the character of Zorro for example, you will find movies throughout the last 90 years that were made by various different companies. When it comes to movies featuring Tarzan, there are different movies throughout the last 90 years made by different companies as well. Same with Dracula, etc.
So why can't NSNA get recognition as a Bond movie, the same way other movies do featuring the same fictional characters? -
psychocosmic-1 — 9 years ago(October 26, 2016 04:12 AM)
Good point, Ryno! Almost always I include NSNA.
The problem is that most of the Bondfilms are actually very good films. Some of us though, think they are perhaps good but not good as Bondfilms,- Thats why non bad films like License and TWINE often get to the bottom by some fans. We all interpret the concept of a "Bondfilm" differently. Some, for instance, discount all Moore films for a reason of "silliness" no matter what they actually consist of.
Dont worry about you being the only one thinking TWINE is great. You belong to a group that is not so small. When I was younger in the 90s,I thought TWINE had a better more thinking approach than the rather mecanical TND and I enjoyed it. Today, I still enjoy it, but the competition is huge, and to have a favorite is not always the same thing as it being the GREAT film.
Believe me, noone here adores AVTAK as much as me. I even watched it yesterday again and I seem to be one of very few who think its immensively much more rewarding and generous than FYEO. I also dig Diamonds. What shall I do? Is DAF a great Bondfilm or just a great and crazy satire? The latter is what Connery seemed to have thought. Just speculating
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RynoII — 9 years ago(October 26, 2016 10:25 AM)
I'd say about one third of the Bond movies are good, but NSNA is not one of the bottom five worst by any means and it does have some entertaining merits about it.
AVTAK has aged the worst for me, out of all of them, besides QOS. DAF is not as bad as people say and I could go either way on it. I put it slightly below NSNA I think. Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd were the best part of that movie.