A metaphor for undisclosed homosexuality
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Seconds
Greg75 — 16 years ago(February 06, 2010 01:26 PM)
Let's be honest : the fact that Rock Hudson stars in the film probably made me think about that in the first place, but then, thinking it over, it appeared to be quite "obvious" to me, moreover when one recalls the emotional turmoil of Hudson's character when he gets this "dead best friend" phone call. It seems to me that he might have been in love with him during college time, without having ever been able to tell him, or even been able to actually acknowledge.
The movie being about an identity crisis, many others things regarding persona & psyche are probably evoked throughout the film, but closeted homosexuality seems like a good decyphering lead to me. -
Greg75 — 16 years ago(February 18, 2010 04:34 PM)
Well not EVERYTHING has to relate, at any point, with homosexuality, I agree. But in the 60s it was an underlying topic in a lot of adult "clever" movies. And "Seconds" is one of them + that seemed sort of relevant to me in this film. but anyway.
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Lionelt3 — 16 years ago(February 23, 2010 02:02 AM)
What an amazing statement: "In the 60's an underlying topic in a lot of adult 'clever' movies." What on earth is an "adult clever movie?" Anyway, I couldn't disagree more. This is homosexual revisionism at it's height. And this film in particular has no homosexual subtexts: except those in your own mind, Greg75. Even the nexus of homosexual revisionism, Wikipedia, makes no mention of homosexuality in their "Seconds" entry.
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gayspiritwarrior — 16 years ago(February 27, 2010 12:52 AM)
Wow. Not only do you completely miss the point of ltrouillier's post, you think to make points by calling names? The denial of homosexual subtext doesn't imply, as you seem to think, some kind of intolerance of homosexuality. I'm as gay as a goose and I agree the perception of a homosexual subtext in this movie is absurd.
And I'll bet if a man called another man a "twat" as an insult you'd be hot on your high horse condemning him. It's no prettier and no more relevant when you do it. Really, discuss all you want, but leave the namecalling and the sexist language where it belongs.
"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."Oscar Wilde -
aratron777 — 16 years ago(March 31, 2010 08:21 PM)
I think this movie at first is appealing, in that if you are bored with you life you can start a fresh new one. Seems great if you unhappy or bored with you life. Some middle aged people are. It is a way for people with regrets to get a second chance. But the film ultimately teaches the lesson that the grass isn't always greener and you should not take for granted the things and people in your life, because when they are gone you will miss them.
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al91206-1 — 15 years ago(March 20, 2011 07:19 PM)
Your right that the denial of any homosexual subtext in this movie doesn't show him as intolerant, but this line, "This is homosexual revisionism at it's height" does. As if there is some kind of conspiracy to add homosexual context when there isn't and whether you agree or disagree who cares. She was simply pointing out that a number of movies over the puritanical decade of the 50's DID have a subtext even though you and ltrouillier don't believe so. Also - if you don't like people calling each other names, kindly refrain from categorizing other's opinions as "absurd".
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gayspiritwarrior — 15 years ago(March 21, 2011 02:33 AM)
On the contrary, in a discussion characterizing an opinion is fair game; that's what discussions are about, rebutting other people's posts because we disagree with them or find them incorrect or silly. I guess if you're so attached to your opinions that they feel like a part of you it might hurt when they're disproved or ridiculed; but disparaging an opinion is not a personal attack.
"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."Oscar Wilde -
vilafire — 9 years ago(June 14, 2016 08:39 AM)
Believe me, not everything does, but because of bigots and homophobes people had to be cagey when exploring such a 'taboo' subject.
But your response says a lot about you, sir or madam. Especially when the question is very valid. It's not like he said The Flintstones is about the gay identity in the Jurassic Era. -