Her reaction to the rape is so shocking
-
kaskait — 10 years ago(September 29, 2015 06:53 PM)
She saw her husband crawling on top of her then a demon face was flashed on top of his image.
This film is psychological. Rosemary would rather believe that something supernatural attacked her not her own husband. -
-
kaskait — 10 years ago(October 04, 2015 03:18 PM)
No, I'm sorry you are wrong. You didn't understand the shadow story that the director encoded into the film.
Rosemary was attacked and beaten by her husband. It disturbed her so much, she internalized it and denied it. In the meantime she was already pregnant when the attack occurred. The hormonal flux in her body due to the pregnancy caused pre-partum psychosis. The psychosis brought out the repressed memories of the attack. But still she wouldn't face it.
She decided that it was demon that attacked her. That the old couple next door (who were connected to the theater industry which was the reason Guy hobnobbed with them) were an evil influence. She lost the baby due to her running all over the city in a crazed, fugue state. She couldn't even face that and decided her baby was alive and the devil himself.
All the clues to this hidden story are in the film. The director himself stated that this was fact. -
kaskait — 10 years ago(October 06, 2015 03:22 AM)
Nope, not a troll.
WATCH the recent documentary interviewing people behind the scenes. Polanski says point blank that he doesn't believe in the supernatural and he filmed the movie in a way that incorporates rational and supernatural explanations. I used to have a link to the documentary on youtube in one thread. But that clip was taken down. However if you have the special edition version of the film on dvd you will be able to see it. -
fiatlux-1 — 10 years ago(October 06, 2015 11:26 AM)
Well, you're creative I'll give you that.
But whether such a video even exists.its just not so.
The film is based on Ira Levin's novel of the same name. Polanski has said any number of times that he truly wanted to get as close to the novel as possible.
And he did! Its almost verbatim to the excellent novel.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush. -
kaskait — 10 years ago(October 06, 2015 02:12 PM)
It exists and this is the more recent Criterion documentary.
At mark 37:40, Polanski discusses the paranoia angle. Again the film supports both narratives: supernatural and insanity. As intended by the director. -
fiatlux-1 — 10 years ago(October 06, 2015 05:41 PM)
http://cinemasentries.com/review/rosemarys-baby-criterion-collection-dvd-review-a-masterful-film/
http://www.imdb.com/board/10063522/trivia
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush. -
kaskait — 10 years ago(October 07, 2015 02:46 AM)
LOL
The IMDB thread is your proof? I can go on that and add in my own trivia. That is a thread result of any IMDB user.
And than you add a review of the documentary I linked to.
JUST WATCH THE LINK. Or don't you want to see the director himself stating that he was on the agnostic side and didn't believe in the supernatural. Therefore he allowed the story to be about a possible psychological problem on Rosemary's part. -
BeOneOfUs — 10 years ago(February 22, 2016 04:34 PM)
This is widely known as a supernatural horror film.
You theory makes the entire thing much less scary.
I don't know whether the directer actually wanted people to perceive it that way or not but I am certainly not going to lol. -
kaskait — 10 years ago(February 29, 2016 11:02 AM)
I don't know whether the directer actually wanted people to perceive it that way or not but I am certainly not going to lol.
Polanski says pointblank in TWO documentaries on the making of the film that the dual narrative was what he intended. I don't see how he can get more up front than that other than calling up each of the film's fans himself to say it over the phone. -
fiatlux-1 — 10 years ago(March 02, 2016 02:44 PM)
I've never heard Polanski say this, but if he did, it makes no sense.
He has clearly stated that he tried to be as faithful as he could be to Ira Levin's novel. The film is even widely known as one of the best adaptations of a horror novel!
So if Polanski did say that, he's more off his nut than everyone already can tell he is.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush. -
fiatlux-1 — 10 years ago(March 14, 2016 07:03 PM)
Well its safe to say the novel author NEVER intended it to be anything but supernatural.
And I HAVE heard Polanski say that he 'tried to be as faithful to Levin's novel as he could'.
He contradicts himself then, if he says anything to the contrary.
The novel & film Rosemary's Baby are both supernatural. If you want to believe otherwise, then by all means go ahead.
Polanski is a nutbag. A criminal one, to boot.
So I don't take anything he says too seriously.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush. -
kaskait — 10 years ago(March 17, 2016 06:47 PM)
Polanski was true to Levin's book. Levin also included reasonable doubt into his storyline. Especially since, yes, everything is in Rosemary's POV.
Again if the film and the book had at least one 3rd person scene, omniscient view scene we would all have definite knowledge whether or not Rosemary's story was psychological or supernatural. We don't. So everything is suspect. -
-
kaskait — 10 years ago(March 17, 2016 06:44 PM)
It doesn't have flaws. It is craftily designed to leave out information in which you the audience member fill in with flights of fancy.
All evidence of witchcraft is created by the viewer himself/herself based on Rosemary's very questionable POV. -
knight-in-black-leather — 9 years ago(May 03, 2016 07:27 PM)
It doesn't have flaws. It is craftily designed to leave out information in which you the audience member fill in with flights of fancy.
All evidence of witchcraft is created by the viewer himself/herself based on Rosemary's very questionable POV.
I have to disagree. There are far too many "coincidences" for this to be simply a product of Rosemary's mind, in fact, she even doubts there even ARE witches in existence.
Also remember, there's a scene at the end where we see the bassinet and there's an upside cross (possibly a crucifix) hanging over it. Also, why are there so many people "concerned" with the baby unless they are all part of the coven?
IMHO, the film leaves no ambiguity about the coven being involved and the baby being the offspring of satan.
I understand Polanski may not have wanted it to come across that way, but he shouldn't have included so many obvious scenes if he wanted to leave it more ambiguous.
Take care
This is a faithful sayingJesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. -
kaskait — 9 years ago(May 06, 2016 12:58 PM)
Also remember, there's a scene at the end where we see the bassinet and there's an upside cross (possibly a crucifix) hanging over it. Also, why are there so many people "concerned" with the baby unless they are all part of the coven?
I'm sorry you missed the double blind tricks before this end scene.- We see Rosemary stop taking her Anti-Psychotic medicine and starts to hear baby cries.
- When she enters this "Secret Passage" it is strictly her POV. Both times it is used, it is in Rosemary's POV and the screen goes black as she enters it. We never get a third person view of this closet passage being used. We NEVER see anyone use it outside Rosemary's presence.
Think. Why didn't Guy use it to get to Roman and Minnie's apartment at the end? Why use the halls to get to their "party" when he could just use the back door?
So if you follow the Pre plus Post partum Psychotic Rosemary story, you will interpret all of this as a psychotic hallucination. Rosemary didn't leave her room or maybe she is already committed to a hospital (there is a hint that this is so, did you see it?). What we see in the end is not real, its all in her head.
-
knight-in-black-leather — 9 years ago(May 06, 2016 08:27 PM)
I'm sorry you missed the double blind tricks before this end scene.
- We see Rosemary stop taking her Anti-Psychotic medicine and starts to hear baby cries.
- When she enters this "Secret Passage" it is strictly her POV. Both times it is used, it is in Rosemary's POV and the screen goes black as she enters it. We never get a third person view of this closet passage being used. We NEVER see anyone use it outside Rosemary's presence.
Think. Why didn't Guy use it to get to Roman and Minnie's apartment at the end? Why use the halls to get to their "party" when he could just use the back door?
So if you follow the Pre plus Post partum Psychotic Rosemary story, you will interpret all of this as a psychotic hallucination. Rosemary didn't leave her room or maybe she is already committed to a hospital (there is a hint that this is so, did you see it?). What we see in the end is not real, its all in her head.
But this goes to my point kaskait, which is Polanski did not make it clear that this was allegedly only in Rosemary's mind.
The neighbours are far too interested in Rosemary and her baby to be just casual acquaintances. Also, the night Rosemary "conceives" her child, she is given chocolate mousse from Minnie, which Rosemary's describes as having a "chalky" taste. At this point, Rosemary has no reason to be suspicious of her or Roman, so we can't blame it on her mind playing tricks on her. During her pregnancy, Rosemary suffers great discomfort, even her friends notice how bad she looksall the while taking Minnie's special drinks. We also see her eat a piece of meat almost rare.
Lastly, we have the tagline for the film:
"Pray for Rosemary's Baby"
As I mentioned before, Polanski may have wanted to keep the film ambiguous, but it's very clear to me and almost everyone else that Rosemary's baby was the spawn of satan and this is what the author Ira Levin, intended.
Take care
This is a faithful sayingJesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.