it SHOULD be watched as a standalone movie.
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dave626 — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 02:56 PM)
Still not working. And ACT's already got enough abuse reports that I don't have to. Now your turn.
pop- I'm talking about the making of on the Shout/Scream Factory release. Rosenthal talked about how hard it was to film, with the airport noise over the hospital they chose, not to mention Universal, Carpenter, Akkad, DeLaurentiis all putting in their 2 cents. Tommy Lee Wallace almost directed it, but he saw it, said no thanks and took III instead. Carpenter has never said anything good about it, from it being as scary as Quincy to downing 6 packs of beer just to write the script. Not exactly glowing endorsements from several key creative forces.
So that's what I'm basing my opinion on. Carpenter wanted to do the anthology, but was forced into a 2nd Michael movie.
I personally have always felt it strayed from what made the original great, which was lack of gore and suspense. They decided they had to one-up the competition instead. If those people don't like it and they made it, why should I like it as a fan?
Like it or not, it did give the franchise the family angle, which kept it going all these years when III almost killed it. So II has it's place. I used to like it a lot, but as I've gotten older I see it for what it is now. A B movie.
Fun, yes. Good, maybe. Great? Not really. Even the makers of it didn't think so.
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pop-actor — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 03:03 PM)
I like Rocky V, but I know Sly doesn't like it..He gaved it O out of 5. But I liked it, it doesn't matter what Sly saidBut that is me..
But thanks clarifying about
Rosenthal talked about how hard it was to film, with the airport noise over the hospital they chose, not to mention Universal, Carpenter, Akkad, DeLaurentiis all putting in their 2 cents. Tommy Lee Wallace almost directed it, but he saw it, said no thanks and took III instead. Carpenter has never said anything good about it, from it being as scary as Quincy to downing 6 packs of beer just to write the script. Not exactly glowing endorsements from several key creative forces.
Now I remember that, but I thought you meant at first, someone said in the interviews, it was a bomb at the box office
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dave626 — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 08:14 PM)
No. It was never a "bomb" but it could've been a lot better. Could've been a lot worse, too, I suppose. I kind of like Rocky V, but it's not the best either.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(September 30, 2016 07:07 PM)
It made almost 7 times it's budget. It wasn't a bomb. It's not like they expected it to go out and put up Star Wars numbers. Had they expected it to go out and gross 50 mill then, yes, you could call it a huge bomb. Had it lost money or barely broke even then you could say it bombed. Any investment that brings you back your money sevenfold is a pretty good investment.
But hey, if you want to call Halloween III a huge bomb then we can all call Halloween II a medium sized bomb because it
only
made back 10 times its budget.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 04:08 PM)
What the heck? You were just PM ing me last week about what a jerk Dave is being, and now you're agreeing with him. Halloween III is one of the biggest, world renowned flops of all time. Tommy Lee Wallace said so himself that it flopped. What are you talking about? III made like 12 million bucks or something, on probably a 3 million dollar budget. That's not 7 times the amount. It's 4. Look at the rating III has on here? A critical and commercial failure of the highest order.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 04:20 PM)
What the heck? You were just PM ing me last week about what a jerk Dave is being, and now you're agreeing with him.
I pm'd you because you originally called me a doppelganger. I told you that this was me and that my account had been deleted, and I thought he was behind it. That doesn't mean that I can't agree with what he says. It's not like I'm inviting him to come to my house for a sleep over complete with smores and videogames.
Halloween III is one of the biggest, world renowned flops of all time. What are you talking about? III made like 12 million bucks or something, on probably a 3 million dollar budget. That's not 7 times the amount. It's 4.
According to this site it made 14.4 million and had a 2.5 million dollar budget. That comes out to almost 6 times its budget. How can that be considered a flop? It didn't lose money. Would you like to invest 25 dollars and get back 144? I fail to see the logic behind it. Like I said, had it lost money or not met expectations then I could see calling it a flop.
Look at the rating III has on here?
Do you really want to go there? I can show you Cheers' rating on here and show you a list of shows that you deem inferior that has higher ratings like I always do when you start preaching imdb ratings. Then you can change your tune and tell me that ratings are suddenly meaningless.
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 06:48 PM)
Whoa, whoa. I'm not the first person to say III was a flop. The producers, writers, director, everyone having anything to do with the film knows it bombed at the BO. Why do you think they brought Myers back in the first place? BeCause III did so poorly.
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BarneyStinson1991 — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 02:12 AM)
I'm not saying Halloween III was a huge success. I just don't agree that it bombed. Name drop all you want. Jesus Christ himself could appear in front of me right this second and say, "Halloween III bombed," and I wouldn't buy it.
Anything that makes money in proportion with its budget is good. Had it lost money, been expected to make much more than it did, or barely broke even then I could see it being called a bomb, but I don't see how they could expect much more than what it did.
Since you mentioned Halloween 4, would you call that movie one of the biggest flops of all time?
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cjh8504 — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 07:38 PM)
Rosenthal didn't say he didn't like the movie. He said your was a tough shoot. So was Jaws, but you think Spielberg hates it? What a dopey thing to say. He loved everyone who worked on it, the cast and whatnot. Only Carpenter never said anything positive. Wallace is an idiot. He directed the humongous failure that is III. He has no room to talk. I don't remember what the other two said.
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TwoThousandOneMark — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 07:53 PM)
Child please, this is ONLY a standalone film for me.
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