I appreciate this honest attitude so much more than faux victimhood!
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The Kraken — 2 years ago(November 09, 2023 05:16 PM)
The argument is effectively asking white men to concede power; how often do the powerful concede power?
Your power is rooted in oppressing other and basically committing genocide of minorities that you deem as a threat to your oppressive system. And all that because you think the color of your skin and psysical features is superior. -
The Many Ghosts of Murr — 2 years ago(November 09, 2023 06:30 PM)
See, I don't think most see their superiority rooted in the color of their skin or gender. I think it's something more subtle and I direct than that, but yes, some lurking within the realms of experiences their color and gender provided.
The idea it's about color or gender may on a subconscious, implicit level would be true (they hold biases, they hold those biases because those who taught them held those biases and expressed those biases indirectly on how and what was taught, etc…), but I think it's one of the weak points of the rhetoric, and why such "feminist" perspectives tend to get the backlash they do: the idea it's about race and gender to the person is in the eye of the observer, as they experience the person's actions. It's a narrative effectively looking to quickly psychoanalyze a person's motivations for doing something, but those motivations are rarely so conscious.
Everyone lives their own reality. The most toxic traits most of us hold are those so deeply embedded in who we are we have trouble pinpointing them. This goes for all humans -
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The Kraken — 2 years ago(November 09, 2023 06:41 PM)
Everyone lives their own reality. The most toxic traits most of us hold are those so deeply embedded in who we are we have trouble pinpointing them. This goes for all humans
Lol! Exactly! Caucasians live in their own reality and forcing it upon others. You're not superior, your culture isn't superior. You use brain washing techniques and brute force to get what you want. -
The Many Ghosts of Murr — 2 years ago(November 09, 2023 06:55 PM)
Yeah, I'm mestizo. I do look pretty white, but the weird blood disease has negated any benefit that might provide. Alas
And again, yes, but I don't think most of that is on a conscious level, is my point. I'm not saying the specifically defined system that is "white men" is not oppressive, I'm saying "oppression" is one model for defining/contextualizing it (as would be "tradition", or babbling about redpill ****, or "decency", or whatever BS concepts the humans choose in that moment). The oppressor is rarely thinking, "I am oppressing this person"; the nature of the battle is they are simply disregarding the oppressed. To be spoken to so bluntly by those you disregard is an ego blow.
I'm not trying to justify anything, just mental meanderings of trying to get inside other peoples'heads… you know, fun. What i think to be at the root of that mindset, in my investigations, ya know?