Seals Vs SAS
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ipmorrison — 19 years ago(September 16, 2006 05:26 PM)
LMAO Delta better than SAS? What HAVE you been smoking? The training of the SAS is much harder, thorough and diverseand they can choose their equipment, so how did you figure that they have worse tech? If Delta had stormed the Iranian Embassy in London, they would have cocked it upthey've done that a few times with hostage rescues. LOL! SAS are the best in the world!
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stmok — 20 years ago(December 18, 2005 06:44 PM)
Technically, you can't really compare them.
They will have missions that will interleve with each other.
Personally, I think the SAS.
Especially the British one, they have the most combat experience of all.
It explains why other countries that also use the SAS model (like US's Delta, Australia's SAS-Regiment, etc) train with them on regular rotations.
Put it this wayOur Australian SAS-R has never lost a trooper in direct action against an ememy. (We have lost 2 in recent times. One to a land mine in Afghanistan, and one in Iraq, when he was hit by a truck). We did lose a few due to a training accident when one of our Blackhawks crashed due to mechanical failure.
If you read about recent missions, they're pretty bright with the resources they have.
Examples: in Iraq (start of the 2nd Gulf War), instead of storming an Iraqi-held power complex, our SAS-R called in a US Navy F-14 to do a supersonic dash over the target. Why? The sonic boom caused by the F-14 felt like an air attack. The Iraqis surrendered the complex thinking they were being bombed, and the SAS-R took the place without firing a single shot. (The idea was taken from a year before as the SAS-R boys were training, and noticed that the RAAF's flyboys were fooling around in their F/A-18 Hornets.)
In other cases, a SAS-R unti took on an Iraqi patrol. Being outnumbered and outgunned (Iraqis had technicals, as in utility vehicles with machine guns bolted on them), the SAS-R responded with a Javelin anti-tank missile against the technicals. It was surprising to note, that the everyone stopped firing to watch in fascination the missile going in!
In Afghanistan, a US Army unit ran into a sh*tstorm, and a nearby SAS-R patrol saved their butts by calling an airstrike. (RPGs were flying everywhere, virtually everyone was pinned down, and the US Army unit had their radio busted due to enemy fire). It was agreed, though, the Afghan enemy fighters were persistant folks, and despite being pounded from the air by B-52s, they still fought until their numbers dwindled. Back at base, the US Army folks let the SAS-R boys cut-in the lunch line in a mark of respect for their efforts. (SAS-R felt a little embarassed, despite being allowed to cut-in). The SAS-R radioman who called in the airstrike, received a medal from the US. (Although, I suspect it was more of a PR thing from Washington).
Anyway, every time the US goes to warThe first request from their Aussie/NZ and UK allies, is always asking if they can bring their SAS/SAS-R along to crash the party. I suspect the US special forces, overall, have been pretty much stretched to the limits in regards to the "war on terror". (but its not really surprising, as all special forces units around the world face the same issue of never ending commits and the lack of numbers/resources to fulfill them allYou can't lower the standard in training and such, just to make up for the numbers!).
Overall, I respect those who are in the special forces, no matter what country. They do alot of things that most of us civillians have no clue about. -
nakedsteve — 20 years ago(January 11, 2006 04:47 PM)
just wondering. I heard somewhere, that when Richard Marcinko set up seal team 6 there were only teams 1 and 2. he called the new one 6 so the KGB would drive itself nuts trying to find teams 3,4 and 5. anybody know if thats true.
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ipmorrison — 19 years ago(September 16, 2006 05:22 PM)
And how exactly did you come to that conclusion? I've never laughed so much in my life!!! The SEALS training is hard.i'll give them that, but not as hard as SAS training.no way in hell!
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thelastbattleship — 19 years ago(September 05, 2006 06:46 AM)
To correct you STMOK the real reason for the Blackhawk Disaster was Pilot Error. An SASR bloke I knew told me the pilot who died in the crash was a bit of an agressive flier. Did not speak highly of him at all.
The Supersonic flyby was copied from a counter-terrorism mission that occured in the Netherlands on June 11 1977: A pair of Royal Netherlands Air Force F-104 Fighter-Interceptors did a Mach 1 flyby over a train which held the hostages and terrorists just prior to the Dutch Marines BBE commando assault, which was successful. -
sjhaycroft — 19 years ago(February 15, 2007 07:22 PM)
SAS are world renowned. without a doubt the most elite fighting force, ive also heard that the SAS help trian delta but notto sure on how true that is. but yeh SAS definatly number 1. lets take for example the bravo two zero story, those SAS guys absolutely slaughtered a few hundred iraqis, notto mention the embassy job
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ipmorrison — 19 years ago(February 18, 2007 01:52 PM)
SBS don't use tanks you plank Delta can't do crap, plus they're "supposedly" extraction and anti-terrorism specialists. They have a different role to the SBS who's main role is maritime recon and demolition. Delta have never (as far as I am aware) ever had a successful hostage rescue mission
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ipmorrison — 19 years ago(February 18, 2007 01:56 PM)
Sorry, i'm not taking sides cuz I don't know, but I will say that not all info has internet linksperhaps try reading a book or two? Anyway, there are frequent references made about the SAS being, and I quote, "The World's Best"i've never heard anybody name another special forces unit that