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Sheriff_Of_Nottingham — 15 years ago(July 05, 2010 09:02 PM)
The reason the English conquered the Irish during the medieval period was because the Irish were raiding England's western coast and butchering English subjects. And there were famines in Ireland long before the British.
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Krauser-san — 15 years ago(August 07, 2010 10:04 AM)
^lol, did you read that on the back of a John Bull cereal box?
It took Britain centuries to fully conquer Ireland. The Gaels were long past raiding English coasts when Cromwell came over to reconquer the lands form Irish Confederates and killed nearly have the civilian population. -
EibhlinnSavage — 15 years ago(December 21, 2010 02:50 AM)
Anyone who has done Postcolonial Studies in Ireland knows that the Irish are considered to be the only occidental postcolonial country. It's a little bit more complicated and subtle than simply being the blacks of Europe. But yeah, you've got the gist of it. The Irish were colonized, enslaved, murdered and treated as an inferior race by the British. The marks on the culture and the national psyche are very similar to that of other countries that have been colonized. One notable difference though is that the Irish have thrived as a country (at least in the South, Northern Ireland is a whole other story) since then, whereas most other postcolonial nations are still struggling with the aftermath of colonialism.
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intofilm — 11 years ago(April 09, 2014 03:17 PM)
That comes up in the movie "The Commitments" too, although it's done in a humorous way.
Jimmy Rabbitte: Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud. -
debrecenisrac38 — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 10:21 AM)
That is a common mistake, which forms part of a lie, namely that white slavers came later, however it's built on the assumption, that people with Mediterranean complexion aren't white.
The Roman Empire had extended slavery, and also had black slaves from Nubia. The island of the Irish people, Hibernia wasn't conquered or annexed by the Romans, so the statement of being enslaved before black people (by others of European descent or those trading with them) is false.
I'd have said, the institution of indentured servitude in Great Britain ended later than slavery was outlawed, and thus Irish people could've found themselves forced into servitude longer, than it was legal to own someone hauled from ships.
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