Predicatble twist.
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ronniehrubin — 10 years ago(August 28, 2015 02:55 PM)
I just love this movie; it's one of my 5 favorite suspense films ever! However, there is one, in my opinion, plot hole that needs to be cleared up. At the end of the burning ship scene, it seems that Soze had plenty of time to get away. I don't remember hearing any police or emergency services sirens in the background. If this is true, why was Soze in jail? If he gets away, there's no chance of getting caught which might cause him to be found out. Let me know your thoughts on this.
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mjstokes85 — 10 years ago(May 04, 2015 11:27 AM)
Thank you for the reply. Since posting this and reading up more I think I need to see the film again. I take your point about Verbal being behind it is only half the twist and I can see that actually I have missed a hell of a lot with only having seen this once. Definitely a film I need to see again.
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c_rys — 9 years ago(April 17, 2016 03:36 AM)
Hey, definitely get where you're coming from mjstokes, can't judge myself as I knew the twist long before I ever saw the movie. Just wanted to say I've enjoyed your thread a lot, thanks for making some interesting points & I admire you for your humility here! Love the film, by the way, personally.
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tlw013-1 — 10 years ago(May 10, 2015 02:41 PM)
I just watched it and was underwhelmed entirely. The movie was ok but nothing special. I didn't figure out the twist as early on as you but I did see it coming and had it figured out before the beginning of the boat fight.
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CharteredStreets — 10 years ago(June 02, 2015 02:55 PM)
I remember watching this in high school, I was maybe 12 or 13, which places it about 1999-2000 (I despair). I didn't know it had a twist - I hadn't seen many movies with big twists, and it was before the Keyser Soze effect kicked in and every movie tried to tack one on. At the time, it knocked me out. I showed it to all my friends, keeping quiet, and none of them guessed the twist either. It was an early lesson in not telling people a movie has a twist; nowadays I'm always guessing where movies are going (including in the cases of Fight Club and Primal Fear that the OP mentions). I can't remember the last time I was really surprised by one. Watching it now it doesn't seem as impressive as when I first saw it, but it still holds up well. I'm pretty sure if I saw it for the first time I'd guess the twist now - particularly if I'd known, as far too many people do before seeing it, that it has one.
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Fluffis — 10 years ago(June 03, 2015 06:10 PM)
When it came out, most people didn't know it
had
a twist.
It also pre-dated the widespread use of Internet and forums that could spoil things.
This movie is really the first big twist-movie of the wave of twist-movies that started in the late 90's. It's not a surprise that people nowadays can see the twist more easily, since the style of twist (unreliable narrator) has been done so many times since - for instance in Fight Club.
Most of the times, however, they rely on a more "straight" twist, so to speak. Here, the unreliable narrator is telling his unreliable story to people in the movie as well as to us, making the narration not just unreliable but meta as well.
Ironically, in a way, this movie is most likely responsible for you being able to figure out the twist beforehand.
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Stratego — 10 years ago(January 07, 2016 04:55 PM)
The Crying Game is from 1992, I wouldn't count that in with the "wave of twist-movies that started in the late 90's". In that case, we could also count Presumed Innocent from 1990 or No Way Out from 1987. There have always been movies with a twist. I agree with the poster that The Usual Suspects could be considered the start of a whole wave of that sort of movies, which was even more impacted by The Sixth Sense.
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!!!deleted!!! (2212087) — 10 years ago(June 27, 2015 11:54 PM)
I saw this at the cinema when it first came out. I didn't guess the ending. As I saw it at the cinema, I was caught up in it. Additionally, it was a Friday night after a full week's work, a heavy meal and a couple of glasses of wine, so I was rather tired.
However, I loved it and insisted my brother watch it. So we did, on DVD, and he really enjoyed it, but he guessed the ending. The showoff also anticipated the ending of "The Sixth Sense" saying that it reminded him of the short story "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" by Ambrose Bierce, which at time I hadn't read.
I perhaps come from a family of Sherlock Holmes, but the gene skipped me. I know my mum never read any Agatha Christie (but she did read a lot oh mystery type books), but any whodunnit she watched, she always knew who was guilty. -
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ragusa11 — 10 years ago(August 29, 2015 02:21 PM)
Here is what happens with these thinker movies. They get ripped off and then as time goes by they aren't that special anymore.
The Maltese Falcon was the first it's kind but when people look back at that movie today you hear nothing but that it is boring and over rated. -
Origamipaper — 10 years ago(September 22, 2015 04:35 AM)
The only way to make this twist predictable is for someone to tell you before hand 'the movie has an amazing twist you'd never guess!'
Back when the movie came out you went to the movie expecting a crime thriller.
Not a whodunnit.
And honestly, to me the Primal Fear twist was way more predictable than this one.
Nevertheless, I think Primal Fear is an awesome movie.
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markok56 — 10 years ago(October 26, 2015 05:30 AM)
I watch this movie in 2006 and it's in my top 10. But, I didn't know that movie has twist ending. I was blown away with ending. Not 'cause Keyser Soze reveal( we don't know to this day who is Soze),but because Verbal wasn't cripple and made all story. Along with No Way Out greatest twist of all time.It's easy guess twist when you know movie has famous twist.