Norris Packard
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The_Toymachine — 20 years ago(March 15, 2006 07:39 PM)
yea i thought this dude rocked, when they had this on toonami when i was in 8th grade i was blown away at how cool he was when he was tearing up the other mobile suits in that city battle, this was awesome
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dac287 — 18 years ago(August 01, 2007 05:47 PM)
Quite the badass. Too bad he commited his life of serving the Sahalin's. Guiness(spi?) was a crazy mofo and Aina was really weak until the last episode (or second to last if yuou count the epilogue).
Packard could have pwned the entire Earth Forces instead ofl etting himself go out at the hands of Shiro (who is a very good pilot in his own right).
Ah, well. Truly an underrated character, even in his own world too. -
dac287 — 18 years ago(August 02, 2007 08:12 PM)
We all lost respect for Guiness. I mean the bastard shot his own sister. He betrayed is own men and blew them up (starting with that cool general dude with the funky hair).
Norris was a good soldier. Unfortunately that forced him to be in a position to lose his life following his "king's" orders like a good soldier. But he enjoyed doing it and was glad o be Aina's right hand at the end and if it wasn't for crazy bastards like Guiness or the commander for the EF Forcces the ending mya not have had to be so bloody (executing EVERYONE in the Zeon and blowing up the base SE Asian EF base).
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dac287 — 18 years ago(August 03, 2007 02:58 PM)
Guiniess was just too out there. Char was completely cool and I oculdn't not like him. Zechs Marquaise and Treize were both obnoxious and frustrating at one point in Gundam Wing (Zechs's terrible theory in the last 5 episodes turning him into a huge villain) but were still interesting to watch and even like.
Guiniess was just too much when he killed the general and then shot his own sister. Albeit he did have one ihlarious line. Shiro yells "I'll make you pay for this!" and Guiniess somehow hears it (I don't know why, as Shiro was not in his Mobile suit and looked like an ant to Guiniess, but whatever) and syas "I doubt thatBut if you come back to haunt me that would be interesting. I have always wanted to see a ghost."
That was a great dickish line. A good villain, but I couldn't empathize with his character though. Maybe it is because in the OVA's short run we never really got to see his POV enough. -
dac287 — 18 years ago(August 04, 2007 05:30 PM)
Guiniess had a lot of funny lines, I'd agree. He seemed to get off on the carnage.
I also thought one of the coolest badass images the whole show (besides Shiro shedding a tear as he blew that woman away and Norris walking side by side his Zaku) would have to be Guniess walking away from the dead scientist room where he dropped a gernade in the champaigne glass and is leaning against the wall as the fire from the explosion follow him from behind.
It made me almost forgive him for killing the Admiral (in "cool anime character" sort of way) but then he shot his sister and got the hospital ship blown up and I'm like "screw that, guy's a douche." That's the way the cookie crumbles. -
dac287 — 18 years ago(August 05, 2007 08:11 PM)
It was more sad and pathetic. He and Guinias brought it both on them. They were both bent on their ways of thinking and could not change. Sure Aina and Shiro could be percieved as idealists and niave in the last episodes (as Karen called them) but they merely wanted to do what was right. They weren't bound by tradition and sensless killing or the archane reasons men must fight (the heart of all Gundam shows).
I didn't pity either one of them. As much as I could find reason to dislike Char, Treize and Zechs as my other favorite Gundam pilots, I never really did (though I came close with Zechs at the end of Wing but he redeemed himself) and was so sorry to see them all go (albeit Zechs.like almost every Wing character, didn't really die in his death scene).
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dac287 — 18 years ago(August 06, 2007 01:13 PM)
Yeahbut Char was a badass.
You have a point. I wasn't sorry to see Char die in Counterattack, but I didn't hate him, either. It simply felt fitting.
YOu make a good point Guinias just wanted his machine to kill some beep and he didn't care what. I also agree the general was pretty damn dumb to order his sniper to shoot Shiro first. Why not take out the guy in the big freaking machine trying to blow you up and then worry about executing Shiro Armada? The sniper also got himself killed by taking the shot at Shiro and Aina as they were SOTPPING it so the Ginas could kill him, instead of shooting at Ginias and trying to help them. Not too bright.