Undead Steampunk Nazi Ninja Assassin
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preachcaleb — 11 years ago(September 30, 2014 06:20 AM)
Again, yes, because that IS the definition. There is no other definition. It's like taking the salt out of salt water and claiming it's still salt water. You're missing the key ingredient.
You can't have steampunk without steam.
And as I pointed out, Kroenen is clockwork, not steampunk. He runs on gears that are winded. You know, like a clock.
He doesn't run on steam. You know, like steam engines.
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Omegamorph — 11 years ago(October 01, 2014 12:19 PM)
Certain aspects of the costume design, the big glossy eyepieces, the style of the various masks, the decorations on the vest and yes, the clockwork which
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a common element in many steampunk works they all seem to be pretty in line with steampunk visuals.
Is he supposed to evoke a steampunk vibe? Maybe. Del Toro loves that kind of visual.
Can people see it as such? Certainly.
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Omegamorph — 11 years ago(October 01, 2014 06:37 PM)
Most people just call that steampunk, which has become an umbrella term for many visual styles.
Don't know what you mean by "winding himself up".
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preachcaleb — 11 years ago(October 02, 2014 06:05 AM)
And yeah, most people use that term, but they don't always use it right. People look at a Victorian house and call it gothic architecture.
What I mean is when he sticks the key into his chest and winds up his gears to fight or get off the operating table. That's clock punk because he's built and wound up like an elaborate clock. Del Toro is a big fan of that: Cronos, the final battle in Hellboy II, and of course, the running theme of the watch in Pan's Labyrinth.
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Omegamorph — 11 years ago(October 02, 2014 09:20 AM)
It's legitimate to label it as steampunk though. Steampunk includes a lot of visual subgenres. It's like someone calling an Iguana a Reptile and someone else saying "wrong! It's an Iguanidae!"
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preachcaleb — 11 years ago(October 02, 2014 10:05 AM)
Yes, visually, Kroenen is steampunk.
But not mechanically, which was the original point. He runs on clock punk, not steampunk.
It's like saying a toad is a frog. Visually, they are similar. But they are not the same animal.
Does IMDB hate apostrophes?