Are Tenoch and Julio in love?
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ChocolateButt — 13 years ago(June 16, 2012 08:50 AM)
It's complicated. They obviously loved each other a lot, and there may have been a degree of homosexuality or bisexuality, but I dunno about being
in love
we (and they) never got a chance to find out.
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Krustallos — 13 years ago(July 18, 2012 10:09 AM)
To me the kiss between Tenoch and Julio isn't an indication of homosexuality
Ha! Yeah, right. And you think that kiss is all that happened? Everything in this film is very precisely put together - consider the Luisa reveal at the end and the references to death that are totally woven into the DNA of the movie. So comments like Luisa's "why don't you xxxx each other" or scenes like the boys masturbating together are absolutely not incidental or random. (And look what happens when she raises the notion of a finger up the a***!). Are they flat-out gay? No. Do they have repressed sexual feelings for each other? Yes. Is the director making a point about macho Mexican/frat boy culture and what all that horseplay might conceal? What do you think?
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Ronin-Trap — 13 years ago(September 14, 2012 12:00 PM)
To me saying they are gay is somewhat missing the point. The movie is about growing up, transgressions and loss. I thought those themes were woven beautifully into that scene - then again, I did just see the movie and have not reflected to much about it.
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ILoveAmsterdam — 13 years ago(September 14, 2012 12:22 PM)
I can see your point about that not what the film is really about. But that's not to say the film can't have other dimensions/elements going on at the same time as its exploration of the meaning of life. For me, if Julio and Tenoch were totally comfortable in their heterosexuality they could have gotten past the kiss and what happened after (considering how close they were as friends and all they went through together on the trip). The fact that they could barely look at each other afterwards shows a very deep-seated shame which as someone else pointed out was probably due to macho-Mexican culture in general.
Another thing I'd like to point out is I didn't make the post to ask whether or not they were gay. I think that can sometimes be a bit superficial. Although I did believe them to be in love, I wouldn't say they were definitely gay. I think falling in love- as seen in this film especially- is not really for labelling or a black and white issue of whether or not they are gay. It seems to me (between Tenoch and Julio) to be more complicated than that. Maybe I'm talking beep so please call me out if I sound ridiculous, but that's what I got from it, haha!
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duMaurier1 — 10 years ago(April 06, 2015 10:45 AM)
IMO I agree with you and I think that is why they stop hanging out with each other after the trip. Another reason why I don't think they were in love with each other.
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