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In this case, A is most definately a negative number! :)

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    MinisterMirz — 14 years ago(February 27, 2012 03:26 PM)

    "John Q" was indeed a bad film. Its failures, however, have nothing to do with its politics.

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      black_k — 13 years ago(May 29, 2012 09:06 PM)

      Man i think you really should get psych evaluation ,everyone who saw the movie was extremely touched by it , i just finished watching it and i couldn't help but to shed a few tears and your talking about insurance, man there is something seriously wrong with you

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        doginthefog — 13 years ago(June 05, 2012 05:24 PM)

        I think the movie did a good job in not painting things as purely black and white. It's not like all the doctors were cold, calculated, greedy characters. All of them showed that they were good people as well. The main doctor argues the point during HMO discussion that things aren't simple either.
        I interpreted it as a movie being what it was, if someone was broke then they wouldn't have the ability to afford health care and people usually do some drastic things when they are put into a desperate spot. It was a critique on the health care system but I'm sure a lot of people feel that way as well. There are pros and cons to different health care systems

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          Babys-man — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 07:54 PM)

          There is a good message about a fathers love, but it is cheapened by the ham-fisted approach to health care reform. Like it or not, the movie is about health care reform, and in particular, health care insurance and it's failures.

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            Destinata — 13 years ago(December 25, 2012 09:12 PM)

            And so, OP, it's predictable that people call you everything but a child of God.
            I've been on OHP, which is like Obamacare. It gives you a two-tier healthcare system, with the people who can afford insurance winding up getting much better care, and the people on OHP getting a distant second best. Some doctors won't even treat OHP patients, and as for finding a competent dentist, that was impossible. When the cost crunch kept hitting predictably, the system kept going broke they kept adding conditions to the list they wouldn't cover. When my 83 year-old mother was dying, she got kicked to the curb because she didn't have money for private insurance. Meanwhile, my aunt who had great healthcare from all the money her wealthy husband left her got treated as if she was 20 years old and had her whole life ahead of her when she was 96.
            Would OHP have covered this kid's surgery and care? I don't know. I do know that when Obama was asked if his family would be on Obamacare, he wouldn't answer the question. The people in Congress won't be on it. Denzel Washington isn't going to be on it. The royals in England, where they have public health care, aren't on it. People who can afford to stay off it choose to. They choose to go to private hospitals in England, as well. Why? Well, duh.
            But some people have to live through it before they can understand.
            We'll get great healthcare in America if Congress and the President are forced to go on the same healthcare they're sentencing their fellow Americans to.
            Just because I don't have patience for obviously false beliefs doesn't mean I'm intolerant.

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              MajinRobot — 13 years ago(January 27, 2013 11:24 AM)

              Some of you actually want LIFE SAVING procedures to be accesible only to rich people? Really?
              When it comes to life and health I wouldnt mind if goverments spend twice as much as they do
              instead of spending some of all their money on almost useless crap.
              Health and the right to life are the most important thing in life.
              And if the rich have to pay for a good national health and the poor/middle class dont then so be it.
              You need to have a down side if you are filthy ritch.
              I am not an expert in these kind of things. I just give my humble, yet also important, opinion.

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                Babys-man — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 08:16 PM)

                I doubt the OP, or anyone on his side, wanst life-saving procedures only for the rich. Speaking for myself, I want insurance companies to cover what they are supposed to. Right now, getting an insurance company to cover an expensive procedure can be very difficult. Many companies have a rule, written or unwritten, to deny any claim they possibly can. Publicly-traded companies are required to act in a way that is true to their fiduciary responsibility. Often, they interpret that to mean limiting costs (payments) while maximizing revenue (premiums). That is one part of reform of the health care system that The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) fails miserably to address in an economically realistic way.
                We do have to accept that we have scarce resources to allocate to health care. (By scarce. I do not mean barely there, I mean not unlimited). Right now, we do a very bad job of allocated and spending those resources (not just money, but training, personnel, Research and Development, etc.). Please take some time to study the Affordable Care Act. Your opinion IS important. We need compassionate people like you to be fully informed. Im guessing you are a good bit younger than I; Im um lets just say over 40 :). Keep pushing for a system that reflects our national values and ideals. Keep in mind that there are economic realities, but dont let anyone use that term (economic realities) to try to blow you off. Hold their feet to the fire!

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                  !!!deleted!!! (19664510) — 13 years ago(February 02, 2013 09:10 PM)

                  Hi, stalker! How's it going, buddy? I've missed you, you sad, lonely git.

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                    turock — 13 years ago(April 02, 2013 12:17 AM)

                    Wow a movie that came out in 2002 back before there were even any Chicagoians who knew Barack Obama, the producers of this movie KNEW he was going to be picked. AND KNEW people would eat this up. Yeah sounds legit.
                    David Caruso "Worst actor ever!"

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                      Prismark10 — 12 years ago(April 14, 2013 06:03 AM)

                      The US health system works great if you have affordable insurance!!
                      Its that man again!!

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                        chrisbacher-480-338061 — 12 years ago(March 22, 2014 07:53 PM)

                        You and your ilk are what he problem is with this country. warriorofgod? What a joke. Have you ever dealt with an HMO? Were you aware that, "Breathing is a luxury"? Please don't even pretend to have a clue. Your comment indicates your realm of being 'in touch' let alone 'real problems' within health care. I would guess you have no problems with the actions of congress for the last few yearsm either Good luck and glad you have great insurance. Oh, by the way, the HMO was through the INSURANCE company my wife worked for. HMO's are wonderful, I'm sure you have one

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                          gtbarker — 11 years ago(June 22, 2014 07:38 AM)

                          Better make sure your knuckledragging cover is up to date there fella

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                            gtbarker — 11 years ago(June 22, 2014 07:38 AM)

                            Better make sure your knuckledragging cover is up to date there fella

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                              FridayOnElmStreet — 11 years ago(March 23, 2015 11:13 PM)

                              So we should let sick people die?

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                                yusef-ghanima — 10 years ago(May 27, 2015 10:03 PM)

                                they already kill living people, abortion, left and right in america are two wings of one devil.
                                i mostly will not be able to answer your reply, since marissa mayer hacked my email, no notification

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                                  mazardeus — 9 years ago(February 12, 2017 08:58 AM)

                                  Man, you are so misinformed.
                                  This movie was made PURELY to scare people into changing health care.
                                  Wrong! This movie was made to inform their audiences into thinking about free universal healthcare. I do not know how you missed the repeated message of Denzel Washington's lines: "SICK!" "HELP!" If someone is sick, they need help. That is a right. Regardless of whether you are rich or poor. You get the same high quality healthcare. How can you not see this in a movie? And seriously dude, quit showing unconditional loyalty to conservative ideologies that try to constantly demonize the word liberal. Read an unbiased book like the dictionary. When you look up liberal in the dictionary, it is a very positive political view.
                                  While I agree that health care needs to be tweaked and modernized (so it's not the complicated, expensive mess it is), this movie isn't even based on realistic problems with health care!
                                  Yes, the film actually gets audiences to think of realistic solutions. The reason why you do not think it's realistic is because you are constantly exposed to American politics and opinion from corporate media that it is not a doable thing when other countries like Australia and Britain were able to do it. How do you explain that? All we need is a single payer universal healthcare system. It can be done.
                                  Obama wants changebut he doesn't even know what the heck he's changing. The reform the democrats want has absolutely nothing to do with the real problems with health care and this movie is another example of how mistaken the democrats are about it. Here is a TIMES article explaining how unrealistic the basis for this movie is
                                  I do not know if you realize this, but both the Republican side and Democratic side are WRONG. So, when it comes to the lives and prosperity of all people (including the poor and oppressed 50% of our population our leaders are constantly ignoring), the Republicans and Democrats do not give a damn about any of us. There is no two sides of an argument. The world is more complex than this. This movie's bases is not a Democratic Party solution. It is not a Republican party solution. It is a humanitarian solution. A Green Party Solution. A liberal and progressive solution. And I am talking TRUE liberalism and progressivism. Not the constant demonization of the word liberal, socialist, progressive and communist found in almost every conservative radio idiot host.

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