The Alt left are losing their fucking minds
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Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 12:55 AM)
Hey ******, we agree for once! There is no alt left. The uncivilized, radical, economically illiterate violent animals are the mainstream left.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Fugazi — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:11 AM)
Well, there are Democrats who are just slightly to the left of Republicans. Their position on the spectrum is always pushed way farther on the left side than their actual policies are. Sure, they're better, which is why I think they're worth voting for over a party that won't win, but I have a lot of issues with them. Then there are moderate leftists like myself and Bernie Sanders… social democrats, democratic socialists, etc. Then there are communists and anarchists on the far left.
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Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:19 AM)
You and idiots like Bernie are far from moderates. You're tyrant socialist douche bags.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Fugazi — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:30 AM)
I said moderate or center left, not moderate moderate. Establishment Dems are pretty close. I would even say a big chunk of Republicans are close to moderate.
Nah, and tyranny is more of a right wing thing… far right anyway. I'm not saying your run of the mill conservative is anything like a Nazi or fascist. -
Fugazi — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:50 AM)
Someone already argued with you on this. Nazis were only socialist in name. It's like any other kind of pandering with these tyrants… or not even tyrants. Lots of regular politicians sometimes attach themselves to certain ideologies, but then we see how they actually govern, and it doesn't match.
I am not defending pure socialism. I believe in a mixed system, so this isn't about bias. Stalinism is a form or communism that I think was about as bad as Nazism. -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:54 AM)
Yeah, and that person made no sound arguments. The Nazis were right wing by European standards only because Europe sucks and is very far left. By American standards there was nothing right wing about them, all of their policies fall into the American left wing category, including their hatred of Jews, and them being evil Socialists.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 02:07 AM)
Free schooling by the state, free healthcare, gun control, pro abortion, anti Capitalism. This is all very leftwing stuff that was part of the Nazi agenda.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 02:14 AM)
Why the need to rewrite history? There's no need. All rational people are with you: East Bloc Communism was totalitarian, despotic, and ultimately a huge failure.
Nazism, while also totalitarian, had its roots in hypernationalist far-right groups and their philosophy, it shared aspects with communism, but it wasn't socialism. -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 03:01 AM)
Rightwing by European standards, but definitely not US standards. That's not rewriting history, that's a fact.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 03:46 AM)
You said that before. It's still nonsense.
The Nazis were right-wing by American standards too, unless you believe that most Americans were to the right of extreme nationalism, anti-semitism, eugenics, racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, and paramilitarism – all components of the Nazi ideology. I tend to give Americans more credit than that.
There were definitely echoes with the Commies in the sense that the primacy of the State trumped the needs and rights of the individual, and maybe that and the name of the party confuses you. -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 03:58 AM)
Lol, you're rewriting history because you leftists always do that, you did the same thing with slavery and Jim Crow. There is nothing about the Nazis that were American right wing.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 11:24 AM)
So you couldn't or wouldn't respond to my post on the Nazia so you trotted out your hobby horse of 'the Democrats were behind slavery and segregation'. OK.
It's too bad, because you can be a conservative for perfectly good reasons, without trying to rewrite history and make the Nazis into communists,
Nobody but you here is drawing the connection from the Nazis to the American right-wing. It wouldn't be a valid comparison, they have different intellectual and social roots, so I am not sure why you are so worried about it, -
Steve Lake — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:53 PM)
Great analogy. They did exactly the same thing with Jim Crow and Slavery. Trying to say it was conservatives .
When in reality , only 1 political party in the United States was for both of those things. THE DEMOCRATS!!!!
You are also correct in saying the Nazi's were a form of Socialism. They had no roots in The conservative or right political spectrum of the United States.
However Hitler did study and was a fan of the Confederates.
The only poster who had his account banned 4 times without ever breaking any rules each of those times.