Question about Brown and Black Relationships…
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vinnychase — 17 years ago(November 19, 2008 09:15 PM)
Yeah it's pretty stupid to say brown these days, I'm Indian and I have whitish/slight tanned skin along with the rest of my family+extended family. In fact, very few of my Indian friends actually have brown skin. Most of us are whitish/tanned color. But perhaps that's because I'm North Indian. You'll find a lot of South Indians who are really dark.
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rainleaf — 17 years ago(November 20, 2008 08:02 PM)
^ it doesn't matter what shade of colour you are, if you're South Asian, you're brown. period. Same goes for very light brown blacks still being referred to as black people - it's offering cultural/racial exclusiveness, and not trying to differentiate between "shades". It makes matters way too complicated.
Brown and black relationships are actually quite rare, so it's hard to provide substantial advice. Generally though, tightly-knit brown communities will view you in a different light, although they will offer great hospitality and (sometimes) even begin to accept you two as an interracial couple if you grow to be a part of their social circle. It depends on the kind of people you choose to surround yourself with - some South Asian families like the one you're getting married into are largely accepting of interracial marriages, while some completely abhor the idea. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(November 30, 2008 05:14 AM)
Thanks for that. And I didn't mean to be offensive with the "Brown" thing.that's just what I hear my girl call herself and her friends. Her family is getting somewhat used to me at this point, but she wants to travel to certain Muslim countries and that just makes me a bit weary. I'm not only American, i'm from the south man. My accent is strong as all hell and I get a little worried about me being on tape and reading a terrorist's manifesto. I guess we'll just see what the fates hold. Thanks for the input though, I really do appreciate it.
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tracyfigueira — 16 years ago(July 19, 2009 04:19 AM)
Where I live South Asians are officially counted as white. I found that out when I applied for a job at the public library. Our city government requires all job applicants to fill out a form with personal information including race, etc., and South Asians, as well as people from the Middle East and North Africa, are officially classified as "white." I know it sounds insane but believe me it is true.
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Weird_and_Proud1 — 11 years ago(April 27, 2014 08:28 PM)
but she wants to travel to certain Muslim countries and that just makes me a bit weary.
I'm not only American, i'm from the south man. My accent is strong as all hell and
I get a little worried about me being on tape and reading a terrorist's manifesto.
For someone who's worried about being subjected to racism you don't seem to have a problem being nonchalantly racist yourself. -
darker_fae — 17 years ago(November 30, 2008 03:28 PM)
Are brown people called Paki's by whites often? How do they usually respond?
I don't know what I would do. I'm Sri Lankan American and that happened to me only she wasn't white, she was African and she said that. I tried telling people that, but they just laughed it off. Blacks are treated well in America and if anyone said anything offensive, they'd be charged with a hate crime or beat up because African Americans have had it tough and I feel horrible for the way they were treated, I do, but that doesn't make her better than me. At least, that's what I thought before; now I'm not sure. -
Arsenal1508 — 17 years ago(November 30, 2008 03:35 PM)
Generally though, tightly-knit brown communities will view you in a different light, although they will offer great hospitality and (sometimes) even begin to accept you two as an interracial couple if you grow to be a part of their social circle.
Bullsh*t
To the original thread poster. I'm just sayingyou'll never be accepted in their social circle. Your wife would be referred as the one that disgraced the family and went with the black guy.
Trust me, if the family is active in the asian community and go to functionsthey won't do so if their daughter marries a black person. I'm Indian, not Pakistanibut I assume they're as close in cultural terms as Indians.
It's ok to have friendsbut never to have relationships. That's how are culture basically is. It's racist yeahbut heythe majority of blacks are just as racist in that sense as browns.
We all know there are a lot of civil, smart, and well spoken blacks. However, its those ghetto blacks hoodlums that have messed up your reputation. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 03, 2008 04:06 PM)
Ok, that's pretty offensive. First of all, the "Black reputation" is fine as far as i'm concerned. When someone is considered ignorant, they are just that., ignorant. I like to think that most people know enough about the world to recognize that there are embarrassments in every race; that ignorance, poor behavior and criminal activity are products of several personal and social factors, not tied to a particular race or culture. As for her socialite parents, me and her have both agreed that if they have an issue with what makes their daughter happy, then that's their problem. Not ours. I don't give a damn about what is perceived to be the "Black Reputation". If someone refuses to see me for my personal opinions and decisions, then they are entirely idiotic and not worth the effort it would take to educate them. To say that there are well educated and well spoken blacks (or however you put it) as though they are considered to be the minority of the Black population is needlessly disrespectful. You, clearly being of a race of culture and intelligence, should know better. That's if you believe your own bullshyt
Thanks to the honest, yet tasteful responses I received.
Thanks to the rest for shortening the list of moronic and rude people I will have to meet in this life, hopefully I can avoid you.
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Arsenal1508 — 17 years ago(December 03, 2008 05:54 PM)
HeyI was just being honest.
You should expect that sort of attitude when you meet her relativesor if you do so.
That's how the general culture sees Black people. For examplewe all get severly pissed off when we hear brown people getting shot down in gas stations etcmostlythe criminals were black.
Look, it'll be hard to change the mind of their parentsespecially if they're against it. For the general part..most asian families keep their culture through generation after generation. They want them to marry within their own race. They don't want to admit out aloudbut they're all closet racists. Sure, we'll have friends of different races, but we wouldn't approve of daugters, sons, sisters, brothers marrying outside their race.
Just like in Bend it Like Beckham when Parminder Nagra's character spoke about the race issue in the dressing room.blacks "eh eh."
You should ask you partner to read this read and she'll agree with my viewpoint. It may be ignorantbut it's the truth. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 03, 2008 06:25 PM)
Considering your still attempting to justify prejudice, I'll respectfully thank you for your opinion and leave it at that. Be blessed shawty
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Arsenal1508 — 17 years ago(December 04, 2008 09:52 AM)
Your an idiot if you think I'm trying to justify prejudice. I'm simply just stating the facts and trying to get you prepared for what our culture is generally like.
Heckeven I myself find different races attractive. But I don't think I'd ever cross the line for fear of what it'd do to my family. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 05, 2008 02:47 AM)
"That's how the general culture sees Black people. For examplewe all get severly pissed off when we hear brown people getting shot down in gas stations etcmostlythe criminals were black."
If you did any research at all on this claim, you'd know that 76% of gas station robberies are done by white substance abusers. So either the perception of your people is wrong, or you have a streak of bigotry in you that you're trying to assimilate with the views your peopleeither way, thanks for the info! And for the record, we don' care to convince anyone. I'd be nice to have their blessings, but we clearly don't need it.
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Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 05, 2008 02:40 PM)
Yes, the same ones. And you know what? If they truly love their child, more than they do some cultural mores they feel they have to uphold, they would be happy for her. Long, long time fron now, when her parents are dead, the choices my lady makes will have to be square with her. She would only have herself to blame for any disappointments or regrets that she'd feel, not her parents. And she knows this. She loves herself enough to know that she has to make herself happy, not like the other brainless sheep who live miserable lives just to appear "proper" to heir social circles. But i guess you don't get that, huh? Sounds like your the type that doesn't have the balls to live your own life.I don't blame you though, it must be loads easier to live when someone else makes all the decisions..
"Yes, Im the Man. Yes, I run My City. No, You Cannot Keep Me quiet"- The ATLien