Punjabis obsessed about Punjab
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punditz — 17 years ago(May 15, 2008 01:38 AM)
@getemthatsright
Thats one hell of a history lesson(as well your previous post)
"what pisses me off is that my ancestors come from a long line of noble kshatriya who have bleed for India in the past and still do to this day are pushed aside because some one decided to give all the credit to the Sikhs"
I really dont think thats the scenario around brother.
Khatriyas(or Rajputs) are still looked up with respect.
As for Sikhs, they have unfortunately fallen pray to "sardar jokes" and other sardars-are-dumb kinda potrait painted by the popular media.
"Yeah it's chaos, it's clocks, it's watermelons, it's everything. " -
hariseldon99 — 17 years ago(May 11, 2008 04:17 PM)
The whole of India seems to be obsessed with Punjabi food, culture, song, dancedont blame the punjabis for it. And this "small" state has protected for the rest of India for over 600 years, the borders which would have otherwise meant entire N India being pakistan today?
If you have an issue, see a psychologist or something or just switch off the TV. And besidesPunjabis identify themselves more as Indians than someone especially from Assam or Kerela does!
Heck that's exactly what I've been saying. All this anti-Punjabi racism is stupid bollox. Plus, the green revolution in Punjab means that they pretty much feed half of North India.
Punjab is the closest thing to paradise we've got nowadays. Chandigarh is a fantastic city. Cleaner and better infrastructure than Amsterdam, even.
I haven't met an unpatriotic Punjabi in Punjab yet (a few nutty Khalistanis in Canada moan about once in a while, but people in Punjab find them as offensive as anybody, just read Khushwant Singh's writings on the topic). Hell during my college days I was a genuine Marxist beep (I'm not one anymore, I became a neoconservative in 2003) and hated India like any good Communist does. I used to get into fights with Punjabis all the time because they were patriotic and didn't appreciate my (back then) anti-India views.
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punditz — 17 years ago(May 15, 2008 01:16 AM)
@hari dada -
"All this anti-Punjabi racism is stupid bollox"
It aint racism boy.
"Punjab is the closest thing to paradise we've got nowadays"
Not only this statement extremely exaggerated its also gives an insight into the uninformed poster(thats you seldon), sitting on his laptop far away from his motherland.
Seriously seldon, when was the last time you were in India??
Dont go about making statements that you dont know much about.
"Yeah it's chaos, it's clocks, it's watermelons, it's everything. " -
hari_seldon99 — 17 years ago(October 09, 2008 12:14 AM)
the north indians/aryans are culturally and ethnically different form the south indians/dravidians.
There is some truth to that, but the differences aren't as collossal as partisan politicians claim.
Not all north Indians are Aryans though, and not all South Indians are "Dravidian". These distinctions were more pronounced 5000 years ago, much less so nowadays.
There has been a fair amount of intermarriage/interbreeding over the centuries. The Oriya in Orissa, for instance, incorporate elements of both ethnicities.
The racial ethnography of India is very very complex and still not fully understood. It would be unwise to reduce it to a few soundbites as you did. -
Miss_Weasley_Potter — 17 years ago(December 10, 2008 07:51 AM)
Hey, hey, hey. First of all, what is this talk about Punjabis being obssesed with themselves? Everybody shows what they know best and obviously, Punjabis would know themselves best so they would automotically do that.
Now, I never questioned why a Punjabi was shown in this movie but since you have, I think the simple reason is that there are a lot of Punjabis living in UK. Yes, so are Gujarati but once again, Chadha is Punjabi so she would know the typical jokes, the cliches, the silly little prejudices et al. It's just natural.
Why do you have to make sucha big deal out of this? I mean, let's face it, Punjabis are pretty fun loving! And I am not a Punjabi in case you think I am being..what the word? 'regionalist'.
It's sad that it's people like you who keep going on about Punjab, Gujarat, Bihar, Maharashtra. What is the big deal? Now, next thing you will complain about is, why is the industry always shown to have so many Punjabis in it? Take Fashion for example where so many of the characters were Punajbis.
I could question, why are the security guards always shown to be Nepalis? And the poor guys, Biharis?
It's just one of those generalisiation type of thing.
That is it.
And as for the Aryan-Dravadian thing, phew, it happen millions of years ago, no point in fighting about that.
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MacbethMacbethMacbeth — 16 years ago(May 13, 2009 01:58 PM)
I don't know whether to find this offensive or just an opinion.
Because Punjab is holy for Sikhs, it's where Sikhism began. Punjabi's have suffered from descrimination from other religions in India which probably makes them feel like Punjab is their only home.
Bangra and Punjabi language is part of the culture and Punjabi's are very cultural. That's just how it is.
The whole reason Chadha made the film was to use it to portray her culture.
My heritage is Sikh Punjabi and trust me, we DON'T sing Punjabi songs all the time and I don't speak Punjabi. We aknowledge we're from India but Punjab is the holiest for us.
Oh and her character in Mistress Of Spices wasn't from Punjab.
P.S.
No bitchyness intended
