Anyone think Nuada was too badass to die?
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sethozlott — 16 years ago(July 17, 2009 01:35 AM)
nah he was the darth maul of our time. everyone wanted him because he looked cool, but really you couldn't do much storywise with him.
behind all the flashly martial arts he was a stale unoriginal character, he reminded me very much of the cliche villain commonly found in most animes (which is probably why people usually love characters like that in live action).
hes the only one who is holding a grudge against the humans and he'll do anything he can to stop them in all the most flashiest of ways, not much you can do with that kind of cliche character motive. another movie would have just been him finding another way (one which involved more flashly martial arts) to kill all humans, and since we all know why and how far he is willing to go already, there isn't much more for him to say in a next installment.
he was very cool but i believe he served his purpose in the movie and whenever hollywood gives into fanservice and drags out something good, that good thing ends terribly and we all end up hating it.
im sure they'll come up with a character more badass if not more than nuada.
some good movies and good characters you have to learn to let go because its not until hollywood listens to us wanting more and drags those good movies and characters out for more money that we suddenly start to hate those characters and movies. -
straightcurve — 14 years ago(July 21, 2011 11:10 AM)
sethozlott was right that he is a character drawn straight from Anime. his goal is more righteous (his character archetype usually start out as scoundrels or assassins) but the victim element is there, and key, because in an Anime, this is the guy who, after being defeated by the hero, eventually turns and joins the good guys themselves (for varying reasons).
see: Vegeta in Dragonball, Aptom in Guyver, Suzuka in Outlaw Star, Viral in Gurren Lagann, etc.
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MisFitMoNeek — 16 years ago(July 24, 2009 05:24 AM)
Nuada stole the movie. It was a combination of everything. The fighting, the cool & creepy makeup, the acting, the way he delivered his lines. His facial expression at times broke my heart
I never thought of him as the sterotypical "villian". Yes, he killed his father but he felt grief & guilt for it. He tried to show Hellboy the beauty of the elemental forest God. He wasn't hell bent on world domination. He was more or less trying to do good for his world & for his people but the end result would had been fatal for humankind. That's not evil, that's a survival tactic. I would have loved for him to have his own movie.
"Oooh lover, you gonna make me clutch my pearls"
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Osmiumos — 9 years ago(April 19, 2016 07:41 AM)
Yep, the highlight of the fim for me too.
Note that he is the only character in the film who is driven by an idea that is larger than himself. All the other characters have personal motivations, but Nuada is motivated by honour and justice. His goal is the survival of his people, of his culture.
Nuada is the hero of the movie.
In the end a tragic hero who comes within a whisker of triumph.
He doesn't die wondering, he takes on the world single handed and gives his all for his cause.
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Hasek — 16 years ago(October 23, 2009 09:55 PM)
In case no one has noticed, Nuada wanted to do the selfless thing. The elves moved underground so the humans could have the Earth, originally in the story. The humans (both in the movie and real life) have destroyed the Earth, that will eventually result in our own extinction. Nuada's motivation in eradicating humanity was that they were dooming the planet, the planet is infinitely more than just somewhere for man to hang his hat (although that concept escapes a great many). This movie was brilliantly done in the sense that there were no villains or heroes, just characters.
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Rochetti — 14 years ago(February 06, 2012 02:30 PM)
Maybe 10% that was his motivation, but remember, before he killed his father he remarks how they are living, how his father lost his pride. So I think in some way he was no better than us humans, but 90% was definitely human. Anyway, I agree: he was kind of cool and the main reason I liked Hellboy 2.
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.
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paragonofanimals — 16 years ago(September 24, 2009 08:04 AM)
Totally! Actually, the only reason I'll watch Hellboy 2 is because Nuada is an anti-villain of sorts. And yes. Prince Nuada was badass and (honestly) more interesting than Hellboy or anyone else in this movie.
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Riding_With_The_Valkyries — 16 years ago(February 02, 2010 12:20 PM)
True! One of the reason I hated the first Hellboy movie was that every character was painfully dull, including Hellboy himself. I think the Prince and Princess and the Goblin market saved this one from a similar fate.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
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tabernac_estee — 15 years ago(April 18, 2010 10:33 AM)
I've always had a thing for badass Royalty. Those Royal Princes/Princesses that walk it like they talk it. Nuada died, but even Hellboy respected him and what he was trying to achieve. But the method was wrong.