Did the main character not want her baby?
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Tommy_gnosis — 17 years ago(January 02, 2009 04:36 PM)
When the crazy woman said to her something along the lines of "you don't want your baby"
The girl paused like the a knew she was right
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basset4 — 13 years ago(October 26, 2012 09:38 PM)
Re: whether she wanted the kid or not. I certainly think she was probably thinking, "Great. My husband is dead, and now I have to raise this kid alone." But I think putting the needle against her stomach was a warning for Psycho Lady to "Stay away, or the fetus gets it!"
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keith123300-1 — 16 years ago(May 06, 2009 10:45 PM)
Yeah, I got the impression that she didn't want it.
Which makes sense because it raises a very moral dilemma - because Sarah didn't want the baby and would probably have made a bad mother, and La Femme wanted the child so she could love it and take care of it.
So even though we're supposed to root for Sarah coz she's the 'good guy' and hate La Femme coz she's the 'bad guy', in the bigger picture concerning the welfare of the child, La Femme would realistically be the better mother figure for it because she's the one who wants it and Sarah doesn't.
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ditamydear — 16 years ago(May 07, 2009 08:34 AM)
While to some extent i agree with you about who would be a better parent, i have to disagree also. La Femme became insane. No rational sane person does what she did. Therefore i dont really think she would have been a good parent. Odds are good that Sarah could have fallen in love with her baby and it would help her out of her depression. Or it could have made it worse and she could have no interest in the baby. No real way to tell. But i think this concept is what really allows you to feel sympathy for La Femme at the end, even after all the horrible things she's done.
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keith123300-1 — 16 years ago(May 07, 2009 12:12 PM)
I completely agree with you about La Femme being insane, she was very mentally unstable. I just meant I feel she would have made a better parent in terms of loving the child and caring for it, because despite how she behaves throughout the film I believe that she would always do everything she could for the child.
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itspoop — 16 years ago(May 09, 2009 02:43 AM)
sarah didn't want the baby. there is a shot that is indicative of how she feels about the baby she is holding up the knitting she was working on, and there is a hole that she looks thru, she exclaims, "it's beep this same shot is mirrored/doubled by la femme later, looking thru the hole in the bathroom door the bathroom being a metaphor for her womb and says, "i want one!" and asks for her baby.
she talks about how she "just wants to be alone." without a man/her husband, she has no interest in the child. people talk about how
all the men get killed by la femme
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LacyRandall — 16 years ago(May 12, 2009 05:57 PM)
I beleive she wanted the baby when her husband was alive.
When he died, she just didn't care anymore. That was THEIR baby, something they had made together, and without him she just didn't care about anything.
Maybe given time she would have wanted the baby, but I think the baby was more of a burden and a bad memory than a joy since her husband died.
Also, I felt sorry for Sarah the whole time. Yes, at times it seemed like she didn't want her baby, but no one deserved to go what she went though, and like I said, she just lost her husband which I'm sure she was so happy when he was alive.
La Femme was crazy and made me cringe sometimes. What happened to Sarah was horrible.
I looked at the whole thing as "reverse PPD". Most women get PPD after they have the baby and want nothing to do with it. Sarah had "reverse PPD" where she hadn't even had the baby, but she wanted nothing to do with it because what it stood for. Her love and life with her husband, which now thinking about it just brought her sadness.
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Iam006 — 16 years ago(May 31, 2009 07:34 AM)
Maybe (and this is a big maybe since I'm a pessimist anyway) Sarah just wanted to die and the baby die too so conceivably, POSSIBLY, she and the baby and her husband could be together again. Is that too mushy? Admittedly it's a stretch since this film is so hopelessly dark and there's nowhere hear to 100% evidence for this but I'd like to think that if Sarah (or any woman for that matter) really loved her man enough to have a baby and to want to have a life as a wife and a mother then she'd be desperate for that life in whatever way it would come. That doesn't sound too rational now that I think about it but I'm convinced it was part of her thought process as she was being terrorized by La Femme.
You could even say that it's pretty true based on Sarah giving in to death at the end (though also you could say she's just about to have the baby and she's justifiably too physically weak at that point to fight back anymore). She dies with that fantasy in her head. But then death has the last laugh as the baby lives and La Femme wins. Bollocks. But yeah, it's a great film though it terrorized ME enough that I haven't watched my copy of it since. 2nd scariest film of ALL TIME (TM and copyright 2007).
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Beautifulmurdermink — 16 years ago(August 18, 2009 01:28 AM)
Hi I'm just Hannah from Norway, and I wish I paid more attention in my english classes. But the sad truth is that my grammar is bad, and probably other things to. But I still want to exspress my feelings, so please bear whit me:
First of off all, I don't think it matters if the main character wanted her baby or not. A woman who butcher animals and people is not capable to take care of a child.
Just because one so badly want to be a mother, does not make you a good and caring one. Who wants to grow up with a serial killer and one who does not take "no" for an answe, as a mom?
Second: I dosen't take a gruesome event like a car crash or a crazy woman to make a becoming mother depressed. Girls/women around the world deals whit the toughts and problems of becoming a mother, and the horrors of knowing you have to give bith, and evrything that can goe wrong.
Especialy if the pregnancy and/or birth was extra hard, mothers tend to develop the blues. Do you really blame them? And who says "La Femme" is not depressed?
And I know "La Femme" sufferd when she lost her unborn child, but you ought to be complete batsh*t insane if you think taking another womans life and unborn child, would compensate fore youre loss. To have children is not a human right. Don't forgett that!
Hannah.
Why would you exuse or pity a woman like this La Femme? She vas traumatized and was maybe insane eaven before the accident. Why is La Femme so suddelenly exsuesed? Just because she saved a unborn baby? By killing it's mother? What's so compasionate about about beeing abel to crawl over dead bodies to get what you want?
La Femme could have done so many things different than she did, but still she choosed to act like a butcher. I want to express that so many people have exsperiensed so much worse the she did, whitout going clowns**t insane.
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SpiritedAway86 — 14 years ago(May 21, 2011 06:29 PM)
Oh yeah sure, the insane woman would make a WONDERFUL mother.NOT!!!!
I don't blame Sarah for not wanting her baby or threatening to kill it because of that psycho, i'd rather do that than have that crazy ass bitch raise my kid. Plus Sarah was just really depressed because she lost her husband and was all alone to take care of the baby, it's understandable she'd feel that way. -
PoppyTransfusion — 14 years ago(June 05, 2011 12:48 PM)
Oh yeah sure, the insane woman would make a WONDERFUL mother.NOT!!!!
I don't blame Sarah for not wanting her baby or threatening to kill it because of that psycho, i'd rather do that than have that crazy ass bitch raise my kid. Plus Sarah was just really depressed because she lost her husband and was all alone to take care of the baby, it's understandable she'd feel that way.
This echoes my thoughts exactly SpiritedAway. Some people's thoughts about films and what they see are left of bizarre.
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DHfilmfan — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 02:15 AM)
Yeah, I got the impression that she didn't want it.
Which makes sense because it raises a very moral dilemma - because Sarah didn't want the baby and would probably have made a bad mother, and La Femme wanted the child so she could love it and take care of it.
So even though we're supposed to root for Sarah coz she's the 'good guy' and hate La Femme coz she's the 'bad guy', in the bigger picture concerning the welfare of the child, La Femme would realistically be the better mother figure for it because she's the one who wants it and Sarah doesn't.
I found that really good, the way their roles were reversed.
I think this is the key aspect of the film. On the one hand, at the most reductive level, we have a home invasion genre film. But on the other, it touches something deep about the ambivalence and terror of bringing a child into this world. Consider: always the child is the protagonist, not Sarah or even La femme. We can compare the two women and debate whom would have made the better mother. But in the end, after witnessing this senseless, violent ordeal (much like life in general), could anyone protect it from the horrors it began to experience whilst even inside the womb?
Maybe the directors are pulling from the rash of criminal activity (and social unrest) against the French by immigrants, which was reported on the television news program Sarah drifted off to, and again referenced in the arrest of the Muslim youth. What's interesting, however, is that the true villain in the film is none other than a 'normal' bourgeois french woman driven mad by the loss of her child (or, perhaps more loosely, the normal course of things which she swore to uphold.) So in my mind, perhaps this film at once touches upon the fears of the liberal, suburban, French viewing public yet also pierces their self-understanding as merely civilized victims as well.
Even without this analysis/conjecture, I think it's an incredibly bracing and technically brilliant film that accomplishes what Martyrs' pseudo-metaphysical second-half never could: a brave and visceral experience that rejects convention while also managing to subtly challenge and access subconsciously the anxieties of its viewers. -
adamsmo — 16 years ago(June 02, 2009 08:59 PM)
I don't know about that. I think it was moreso she was contemplating giving up the baby so she could live and seeing if maybe she acknowledged it, the rest could have been avoidable in a way.
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sorbeck — 16 years ago(June 05, 2009 07:28 PM)
No.
That's what makes the end of the movie so amazing! Did the good guy win? It's left to interpretation whether the movie has a happy ending.
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tonyhwlee — 16 years ago(August 19, 2009 05:15 PM)
On the contrary to the comments posted, I felt she wanted her baby. When her husband died in the crash, a part of her died with him. She was left in a deep state of depression. During the initial scene of the crash, she looked over to him to check on his condition, shortly you will see in this scene she grasp her stomach with both hands to check on the baby's condition as well. She did care for the baby, but the deep depression caused her to feel little for life itself. Just as she gives her own mother a constant attitude, when she notices that her mother had died, her true emotions poured out. Its one of the first things she says to the police officer. That she killed her mom. And again, she calls out for her mother towards the last scenes of the movie as well. Her depression is the main cause for her oblivious zombie-like state, which in turn caused her to neglect those around her (her mother and her unborn baby).
As for the scene in which she holds a needle point towards her belly. It was a reaction out of desperation. She was well overpowered by la femme and in her pregnant state, was barely grasping on to life itself. She knew la femme wanted her baby so placing the needle point towards her own stomach may have well been a bit of desperation as well as trickery on her part. Perhaps it would cause la femme to back off similar to a hostage situation and buy herself time. Clearly sticking that long needle point in her own stomach would cause enough pain and perhaps blood loss to kill herself as well. As you watched how hard the main character grasped onto life through out the movie, it didn't make sense she would just suicide right there. Examples, she held onto a shard of glass cutting both hands in the process to ward off her attacker. She pokes a hole in her own throat to breath and tapes herself up to stop the bleeding etc etc. She wanted to live. Another point of view I can even accept is she would rather kill herself and the baby, rather than even attempt to fathom the crazy bitch taking her baby. lol.
