OT: Is Margaery the most pointless character ever (after Sansa)?
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BlueWesteria — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 12:46 PM)
If it wasn't for Brienne, Jaime would have never gotten to King's Landing. He wouldn't have been there to free Tyrion. So Tyrion would be dead and Tywin would be alive. Furthermore, if it wasn't for Brienne, Sansa and Theon would have been recaptured by Ramsay who could very well still hold Winterfell at the moment with Sansa as his slave hostage.
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Rottenbeard — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 07:13 AM)
none of these situations needed Brienne the bore to happen, she was just clumsily inserted into them because the hack writers need their girl power fix.
Jaime didn't need to be in kings landing to free the midge, Varys would have (like he did anyway)
I wish Ramsay did still hold Winterfell, he was a much more interesting character than no nothing Jun Snuw, and Sansa being a sex slave was the most interesting her character has ever (and will ever have) been.
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BlueWesteria — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 08:27 AM)
none of these situations needed Brienne the bore to happen
Oh please. You could rewrite the entire story, make some other character do whatever action and then claim the character who initially played that role is pointless. However, it was Brienne who did those actions. It was Brienne who influence the plot.
And she's hardly a bore. Her fights are epic. She's one hell of a lady knight. The fact she inspires such acrimony from butthurt crybaby weenies only adds to the amusement.
she was just clumsily inserted into them because the hack writers need their girl power fix.
Brienne was written by GRRM as bringing Jaime to KL. She may also save Sansa at some point. The ground work has been laid in her chapters if you read them carefully. Besides, her reasons for being in those situations on the show made logical sense. You merely dislike that she's been kicking so much ass.
I wish Ramsay did still hold Winterfell, he was a much more interesting character than no nothing Jun Snuw, and Sansa being a sex slave was the most interesting her character has ever (and will ever have) been.
That's your personal opinion. It doesn't erase the impact Brienne has had on the show. -
Rottenbeard — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 08:42 AM)
Brienne was written by GRRM as bringing Jaime to KL.
Jamie didn't need Brienne to get him to KL.
She may also save Sansa at some point
Theone helping Sansa escape would have been a great addition to his ark.
Sadly it was not to be because the writers needed to get their Xena fix.
You merely dislike that she's been kicking so much ass.
I dislike her because she's nothing more than a (((hollywood))) cliched ass-kicking wommyn who adds nothing to the plot.
Her fights are epic. She's one hell of a lady knight.
Only to the kind of idiots who think Dark Knight is a masterpiece.
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BlueWesteria — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 09:10 AM)
Jamie didn't need Brienne to get him to KL.
He did. Catelyn wouldn't have released him otherwise. However, that is beside the point. Brienne
did
get him to KL.
Moreover, Brienne's had a huge personal influence on Jaime's character that will pay off in a big way this coming season (check out the leaks).
Theone helping Sansa escape would have been a great addition to his ark.
Theon has an ark? Maybe he can put two of every species on it and save the animal kingdom from the long winter.
PS. Theon is nowhere near Sansa in the books. Nor would it be a "great addition" to have him repeat the same arc he just had with Jeyne Poole.
Sadly it was not to be because the writers needed to get their Xena fix.
GRRM wrote Brienne to be a badass warrior. She's even more heroic and impressive in the books. You wouldn't be able to handle it.
I dislike her because she's nothing more than a (((hollywood))) cliched ass-kicking wommyn who adds nothing to the plot.
You dislike her because of your personal failings and deep insecurities. She's a strong woman who works very hard. Her character has meaningful interactions with others, influences the plot, and will continue to do so.
Only to the kind of idiots who think Dark Knight is a masterpiece.
Nope. -
OursIsTheGOAT — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 09:40 AM)
I don't really get why a LF fan dislikes Sansa that much. IMO his character would be way less interesting without her pressence throughout the series.
Margaery was not ever pointless. She just didn't have much to offer to the story anymore; see Stannis. -
roland-rockerfella — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 12:38 PM)
Marg was a product of the great houses of Westeros. It's all about politics and alliances. That's how they stay in power. True she would jump into bed with anyone who could promise her power but that's what she was trained to do.