It's Marine, not soldier
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redwingjs — 16 years ago(July 28, 2009 06:17 PM)
No, it's not. Thinking that it is the same shows your ignorance and complete lack of respect.
I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.
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smoke_a_joint — 16 years ago(November 08, 2009 12:48 PM)
hey.. I also thought that saying "soldier" would be fine.. I mean after all, isn't a marine just as honorable as any other soldier? or is it that a marine is more honorable than someone else? If someone calls me doctor, I don't care if he calls me Dr. of Biochemistry or just Doc.. althought there certainly are vast differences in any field of profession, isn't especially a soldier an honor title in itself that literally cannot be raised further?
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cpaul085 — 16 years ago(February 11, 2010 07:20 AM)
smoke_a_joint you missed the entire point of this discussion."Isn't a marine just as honorable as any other soldier?" The point being made is that Soldier is NOT a broad term for military personnel.a common misconception of the term Soldier. A "Soldier" would be in the Army. There is a specific term for each branch. Marine - Marine Core, Sailor - Navy, Airman - Air Force, Soldier - Army, Guardsman - Coast Guard. Does this not make sense? .
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leahbethm — 16 years ago(November 15, 2009 12:43 AM)
People that are NOT in the military should not be expected to know the difference between soldier and marine, etc.
The young girl in the film didn't have a clue about military 'titles' so it wasn't a bad thing that she referred to him as a soldier. -
JonM1911 — 16 years ago(July 29, 2009 10:05 AM)
And we have a winner for douchebag of the wk post! As someone who is into all things military, and is going to enlist in the Navy for a chance at BUD/s I don't see how its so hard. Even if its just out of respect, although I don't expect civilians to know all the technical stuff, they should know the difference between Airman, Marine, Sailor, and Soldier. And I agree, I think that everyone should serve a mandatory tour in the military, might help shape up my generation.
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krivak2 — 16 years ago(August 19, 2009 11:05 PM)
I, too, am an ex-Marine, so I understand where you're coming from, BUT
It never bothered me at all when someone would refer to me as "soldier." Why should I be upset at someone who doesn't know any better? I also never saw anything productive in shaming the person by correcting their mistake. As long as it is said in a spirit of respect, why make the fuss? Now if someone is being a jackass and calls you "soldier" that's different. MHO
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oldsalt61 — 16 years ago(October 18, 2009 07:21 PM)
I think it's a post draft thing. There is a progressively smaller percentage of the general population having served in the military with the aging/death of the WWII and Vietnam generations and as a result there are more people who aren't as familiar with the proper terminology. My experience is that such an "error" is best handled by considering the intent of the person addressing you. If they are attempting to address you respectfully you may have the opportunity of correcting them without embarrassing them. If time or circumstances don't allow for that simply acknowledge them respectfully and move on. IMHO overreacting and embarrassing the person who is trying to be polite does nothing but drive a little more wedge into the divide between the military and civilian worlds. Now if it being said in an attempt to be disrespectful; well, how you handle that has to be based on the individual situation.
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sirsalon — 16 years ago(November 19, 2009 11:11 PM)
Thanks for injecting some sanity into this conversation. If this conversation had been in real time, it would have come to blows and who knows what else.
By the way, a terrific movie with a relevant and reverent message. -
mastadoy — 16 years ago(November 28, 2009 02:37 PM)
Pretty funny thread. In Norway we have a "mandatory" military service of one year (for males), which about 75% decide to trade in for a more fruitful civilian service. Meaning, working for a low symbolic sum at for instance a local school, health care center or retirement homes. Therefore, military rank is something almost all Norwegians really don't care about, and why should we? A soldier is someone who has chosen to "serve his country" (what a thought, implying that finding other healthy labours aren't a part of serving ones country) in the military, no matter which part of the military he or she has chosen to join. And why on earth should a soldier deserve more respect than say, a teacher? Should a math teacher be offended for someone calling him just.."teacher"? Wars are a far away subject in our country, because we have chosen it to be so. And therefore respect is something you earn, as a decent human being, not something you automatically are entitled to for putting on a uniform.
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Devil_Doc1988 — 16 years ago(December 08, 2009 10:05 PM)
a couple points i'd like to makefirst off as a corpsman(HM3) i deal w/ just about every branch.
Second, i dont know why ppl are trying to correct us in the military saying a teacher is a teacher, a doctor is a doctor so a marine is a soldier, basically generalizing everything.. ok thats nicenot for us sorry we have a lil pride and discipline.
Third, some ppl think we're not worth at least learning the basic about im talking about THE BASIC like a Soldier Sailor Airman Marine or Guardsman i mean do we go around telling you "oh college student, smart-ass knowit all hippy-lib douche they're basically all the same" no we dont.
Fourth.. yeah other civil service jobs are important but im sorry when's the last time a teacher or mailman went, volunteered and fought maybe even died in a war?.i'll wait so yeah i think we're a lil more important then other jobs. im also tired of ppl saying "why should i give a beep he volunteered" yeah be ignorant dick..
And lastly its negative ppl like you why i don't believe in a mando service time, only because i think 90% of ppl forced would probably get someone killed, i hate working w/ ppl who are a hot mess and they volunteered..cant imagine how a draftee would be.. -
mastadoy — 16 years ago(December 13, 2009 03:44 AM)
The one thing that stood out from your post was that you seemed to imply that since you have a higher chance of being hurt or killed in service, your job is more important than that of a postman or a milkman. I'm sorry, but I fail to see the logic in this.
You also seem to imply that I care less about deaths if a soldier volunteered, which is far from the truth. A death is always a tragedy, but I refuse to grieve more for a person who "gave his life" for his country (nationalism is a pretence I strongly reject, nations and borders should exist solely for beurocratic reasons in my opinion), than if a postman is hit by a milk truck.
A soldier is a soldier to my eyes, and if you hink it's important to differentiate between separate sections of the military, then it's your job to make me aware of them. Not mine.