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    ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 10:39 PM)

    Is that movie
    Lipstick
    ?
    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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      Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 10:52 PM)

      It is, have you seen it?
      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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        ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 10:55 PM)

        It is, I have on VHS.
        There is only one version on here and the video is restricted access so can't watch.
        Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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          Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 11:27 PM)

          Margaux died young. I felt sad for Mariel
          Margaux's sister Mariel stated, "She was found with her legs propped up on a pillow, with a book in her lap. That does not sound like someone who committed suicide. The coroner said the same thing. Also, my sister was somewhat a drama queen. If she had committed suicide, she would have left a note, a long note naming everyone who had ever wronged her.".
          Mariel went on to say that it was three weeks after Margaux's death that it was announced that she had committed suicide, and that the press most likely said this because it "made for a better story." Mariel had ironically enough played the owner of the Daily Planet (a newspaper) in Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987).
          Sister Mariel Hemingway, while appearing on Larry King Live (1985) on CNN, stated publicly that Margaux did not commit suicide. She said that the original coroner reported that Margaux most likely died of an epileptic seizure. [July 2001]
          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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            ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 11:37 PM)

            Did Margaux have a medical history of epilepsy?
            Neither had a very prolific film career, apart from a couple of sensational roles.
            Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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              Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 11:45 PM)

              She did, yes
              Neither had a very prolific film career, apart from a couple of sensational roles.
              Sounds like Mariel is just a working actor
              I enjoy making things that are different. It makes for a better career. I don't want to do the same thing twice. I love the different roles I've played. I don't ever want to be pigeonholed! That's the great thing about acting – all these different people I can play, as long as audiences are willing to see them. The more different roles I do, the more different roles I will get.
              If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 11:54 PM)

                It then sounds like typical MSM sensationalism to attribute Margaux's death to suicide and further proof one can't trust in what they read.
                Mariel sounds like she is humble and wasn't that interested in a big star career. Not that this may have happened even if she was, but I sense that Margaux may have been the more ambitious one.
                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                  Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 01:39 AM)

                  I think you may be right about Mariel and Margaux
                  Margaux was a model, and she was perfect for the camera. Epilepsy maybe derailed her success? No idea
                  If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                    ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 01:48 AM)

                    I enjoy
                    Lipstick
                    and that explosive ending is just so fitting.
                    Mariel had a lovely and serene screen presence about herself and if she really wanted it, I think she could have had a bigger movie career. She didn't appear to be egotistical and for that to happen, one has to want too and know how to play the game.
                    She was the best thing about Allen's over-praised
                    Manhattan - '79
                    . I just can't really connect with, or quite get into this pretentious and self-absorbed offering of his despite the music and gorgeous b&w cinematography. Its certainly not the radiant light that is
                    Annie Hall - '77
                    and
                    Interiors - '78
                    I find more compelling and even amusing to watch.
                    Apparently Allen himself isn't too fond of
                    Manhattan
                    .
                    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                      Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 02:14 AM)

                      ToastedCheese said...
                      I enjoy
                      Lipstick
                      and that explosive ending is just so fitting.
                      Mariel had a lovely and serene screen presence about herself and if she really wanted it, I think she could have had a bigger movie career. She didn't appear to be egotistical and for that to happen, one has to want too and know how to play the game.
                      She was the best thing about Allen's over-praised
                      Manhattan - '79
                      . I just can't really connect with, or quite get into this pretentious and self-absorbed offering of his despite the music and gorgeous b&w cinematography. Its certainly not the radiant light that is
                      Annie Hall - '77
                      and
                      Interiors - '78
                      I find more compelling and even amusing to watch.
                      Apparently Allen himself isn't too fond of
                      Manhattan
                      .
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                      I enjoy
                      Lipstick
                      as well. He goes after her baby sister???
                      Not on my watch!!!!
                      I never saw
                      Manhatten
                      or
                      Interiors
                      . I enjoyed the humor in
                      Annie Hall
                      This is very cute video "Yipick"
                      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                        ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 02:46 AM)

                        Cheeky said...
                        I enjoy
                        Lipstick
                        as well. He goes after her baby sister???
                        Not on my watch!!!!
                        I never saw
                        Manhatten
                        or
                        Interiors
                        . I enjoyed the humor in
                        Annie Hall
                        This is very cute video "Yipick"
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZXl9AUgxdE
                        Mariel scored herself a best supp actress Oscar nom for her role in
                        Manhattan
                        . She is the light in the film, which has underlying ugly tones/themes despite it being a supposedly sophisticated comedy.
                        The other characters just aren't that likeable or endearing and if this was Allen's point, I don't think it worked and it was just a wish fulfillment fantasy of his, a 40 something dating a 17yr old.
                        I don't even get why Mariel's sweet Tracy character would even fall for such a creepy nebbish gorp and Allen sort of rehashed his Alvy Singer character from
                        Annie Hall
                        , in that Issac was educating her. It was the wrong type of education.
                        I wanted Sarandon to suffer big time in
                        Lipstick
                        . Its been a while since I saw and I can't recall if Margaux torments him before blowing him the f<>k away,
                        Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                          Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 02:55 AM)

                          ToastedCheese said...
                          Mariel scored herself a best supp actress Oscar nom for her role in
                          Manhattan
                          . She is the light in the film, which has underlying ugly tones/themes despite it being a supposedly sophisticated comedy.
                          The other characters just aren't that likeable or endearing and if this was Allen's point, I don't think it worked and it was just a wish fulfillment fantasy of his, a 40 something dating a 17yr old.
                          I don't even get why Mariel's sweet Tracy character would even fall for such a creepy nebbish gorp and Allen sort of rehashed his Alvy Singer character from
                          Annie Hall
                          , in that Issac was educating her. It was the wrong type of education.
                          I wanted Sarandon to suffer big time in
                          Lipstick
                          . Its been a while since I saw and I can't recall if Margaux torments him before blowing him the f<>k away,
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                          I don't even get why Mariel's sweet Tracy character would even fall for such a creepy nebbish gorp
                          She wouldn't. Like you said, it was Allen's fantasy
                          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                            ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 03:08 AM)

                            Cheeky said...
                            I don't even get why Mariel's sweet Tracy character would even fall for such a creepy nebbish gorp
                            She wouldn't. Like you said, it was Allen's fantasy
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSjp950tq-Y
                            Ohhhh, my mind was thinking she blew the car up into a fireball.
                            What would happen to her?
                            Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                              Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 03:11 AM)

                              ToastedCheese said...
                              Ohhhh, my mind was thinking she blew the car up into a fireball.
                              What would happen to her?
                              Toasty, you own this movie
                              If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 03:18 AM)

                                Cheeky said...
                                Toasty, you own this movie
                                Its been a long time since I saw.
                                Do you recall if it mentioned what happened to Margaux's character?
                                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                  Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 03:28 AM)

                                  ToastedCheese said...
                                  Its been a long time since I saw.
                                  Do you recall if it mentioned what happened to Margaux's character?
                                  Sorry, I don't
                                  I was 21 when I saw it
                                  If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                    ToastedCheese — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 03:33 AM)

                                    Cheeky said...
                                    Sorry, I don't
                                    I was 21 when I saw it
                                    I will have to find time to check out my old vhs tape if the machine is still working.
                                    I was hoping to watch in on here a couple of months ago.
                                    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                      Holy-Water — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 07:10 PM)

                                      Vera is one actress I will watch in anything even if it don't sound good. She is not only pretty but a great actress. Great combination!

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                                        Cheeky — 4 years ago(January 27, 2022 02:21 AM)

                                        I don't watch whatever she's in, but I agree about her prettiness and talent
                                        If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                          Lilith — 4 years ago(January 27, 2022 04:53 AM)

                                          I always thought that Vera was the name of the younger one. I constantly confuse the two.
                                          "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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