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And it has been satan masquerading as “god” all along? A sort of divine troll, like AyeLewis.

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    -Thirsty- — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 02:54 PM)

    The Ultimate Deceiver. Satan reigns in Heaven that is actually Hell and God swims in the boiling Lake of Steve.

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        Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 03:01 PM)

        It may explain why the world is so ****ed up. Satan is still learning the ropes. He is not omniscient and omnipotent the way god was.
        Although if god was so omnipotent, shouldn’t it have been impossible for satan to “win”? Unless god
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        him to win. Consider How we all go through phases in life where our personalities change in large ways. Maybe god had a period where he felt depressed and unworthy of his status. Maybe he got a little into masochism. Maybe he wanted to try out life on the wild side, free from all the petty and trite prayers cast in his name by his miserable and obnoxious creations. Maybe all of this is very temporary, and we are left with the substitute teacher Satan ****ing everything up.
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            Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 03:46 PM)

            I don’t really believe in either. I think they’re simplifications depicting states of being that humans of the time were readily able to understand as desirable or not desirable. What they describe are the way it will feel at the culmination of a life lived well (heaven) versus a life lived poorly (hell), for when you do die, the lasting impact your life had on others can no longer be changed by you. In such a way, your fate and the feelings your memory will evoke will indeed be eternally bad or good, for your offspring will take from you lessons about how you lived your life and carry that on into the future. The story of your life is what your heaven or your hell will end up being.
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                Macuahuitl — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 03:58 PM)

                "How can life after death be more serene than life itself?"
                Indeed.

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                    The Risen Christ — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 04:02 PM)

                    Would you like to be the apostle of the Risen Christ?

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                      Macuahuitl — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 03:03 PM)

                      Riveting. Alternatively, the topic of who won is inconsequential. Good and Evil is ultimately a matter of perspective. Indulging in the pleasures of the flesh is only 'wrong' because that happens to fit the agenda of the entity we've elevated to arbiter. I have no idea what I'm talking about right now, nor ever.
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                        Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 03:04 PM)

                        You’re like Stygian with a side order of Klam. Previously I thought you were Simply Klam. Perhaps you’re their love child, Klygian Deep. KD.
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                          Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 03:43 PM)

                          That's Gnosticism. The evil Demiurge created the physical world. You see, all this was already known two thousand years ago.
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                            Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 03:48 PM)

                            Known or posited? Are you a Gnostic priest, gameboy? Weren’t they also wizards?
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                              Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 04:14 PM)

                              Gnostics believe that the material world was created by a lesser deity which they call the Demiurge (literally "public craftsman").
                              The Demiurge is a hostile demonic force who creates the material world in order to trap the spiritual elements.
                              http://gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Demiurge.htm
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                                Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 04:18 PM)

                                Why did they believe this
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                                  Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 04:21 PM)

                                  It's basic dualism. There are two gods, one evil, one good. It's where the Jews got the idea of Satan.
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                                    Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 04:24 PM)

                                    Why did they diverge from main sects of Judaism in such a fundamental way?
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                                      Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 04:26 PM)

                                      Who, Gnostics? Most of them accepted Christ. Christ was an avatar of the good god. But Satan ruled the earth.
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                                        Vlad. — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 04:50 PM)

                                        That’s not the situation I’ve proposed in the OP.
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                                          Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(May 04, 2020 05:34 PM)

                                          Why? Lucifer got the world. He created everything. If god had created the universe it would be completely different.
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