A really stupid pro gun argument…
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Expired Shark Repellent — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:58 AM)
That's not all I've got.
You haven't said anything with any validity yet, in this or the other thread about firearms. Nothing but pie in the sky platitudes.
Do some digging on statistics and it should all become clear to you.
Firearms ownership by legal means by citizens in this country saves more lives and prevents more death and crime than you realize.
Seriously, look into it. I believe you are someone who isn't beyond admitting he is wrong when it is revealed to him. I leave it in your hands. -
Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 11:55 AM)
"You haven't said anything with any validity yet…"
To you because we are on opposite sides of the coin.
If I was pro gun and spouting off all sorts of ridiculous nonsense such as that every ex con should have a gun or why not arm all the mental patients with red flags, you would either agree out loud or silently disagree.
"Firearms ownership by legal means by citizens in this country saves more lives and prevents more death and crime than you realize."
I double dog dare you to say that to any family member who lost someone to gun violence.
Guns are causing more death and crime than you fail to recognize.
There really are no winning arguments by the pro gun side when the thing they advocate is used by criminals and the one and only purpose of that thing is to harm and kill ppl.
You may as well be arguing for why every household should have a barrel of toxic waste in the corner of the living room. -
Expired Shark Repellent — 4 years ago(June 12, 2021 07:50 AM)
Your responses do not follow logically upon what you think you are responding to. I haven't seen a reply so laden with non sequiturs like yours in quite a while.
I'm not insulting you, I'm being frank with you. You seem very, very lost. -
Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:31 AM)
"You have a really superficial understanding of… well, everything, it looks like. "
Of course you would say that because we are not on the same side of this issue.
So I will take that with a grain of salt.
The ones who don't understand are you pro gun chickenshit cowards who somehow are fooling yourselves into thinking that if those dictators took control when they took away the guns over there, it WILL happen here!
Which it won't because of the system we have in place.
Turd Lump is pro gun, he has said that, and he has a record of maybe making a couple of background checks stronger while at the same time making gun laws weaker or not doing anything about it as promised.
I would say that he never did enough for gun control, didn't care at all about mass shootings and the pro gun wanna be dicktator encouraged his pro gun crowd to take over the Capitol where he reduced the police presence and refused to call in the Natl' Guard despite pleas from Pence to do so.
Feb. 28, 2017: Trump signed a bill into law rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to purchase guns. That Obama-era measure had included people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-trumps-record-gun-control-reform/story?id=64783662 -
insurgent — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:40 AM)
Frankly, that article shows he was not pro-gun. Red flag laws and banning bump stocks are gun control actions. Just because he SAID he was pro-gun and his mindless followers are pro-gun doesn't mean he was.
See above how ours is different with voting.
This is ignorance. Examples of democracies that have been taken over by dictators: Venezuela, Nicaragua, Egypt, Nazi Germany.
Plus you cannot apply what happens in the past and in a different country as if that is going to happen to ours.
Clearly you see no value in learning history, but that's literally the point of it.
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Professor FFS — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 11:32 AM)
Warren is probably a Bentley sock. He shares many of the same irrational viewpoints as our beloved professor.
There's one very simple way to counter their lame counter argument, and that's to point to the success of many belligerents who've employed guerrilla tactics using small arms and improvized explosives. The Russian partizans, in WWII, made progress difficult and costly for the Germans. There was Vietnam in the sixties, which was so costly for America we had to withdraw. Then Afghanistan for Russia, and then the West, followed by Iraq. Then look at Syria today.
Idiots who think nuclear weapons and heavy ordnance win warns are, well, idiots. That kind of technology wins battles, perhaps, but it sends the enemy underground. Ultimately, it makes them impossible to defeat, with every attempt to do so simply increasing their sense of righteousness, thus swelling their ranks.
There's real danger around the corner, though. If we don't put the right controls in place soon (tighten up the voting system, win the argument on free speech and liberty), we're all ****ed when the next generation of AI and robotics arrive. No matter how well armed or determined we are, we'll have no chance against a more intelligent, non-human adversary.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 11:59 AM)
I am not a sock of anyone and I don't know or remember Bentley and his posting style.
It is not the first time and place I have been accused of a sock account.
Sometimes two posters just share in the same values and expressions which are similar.
OK so you are FFS!
I have heard of how notorious you are and your post fits in with your reputation which as far as I know hasn't been very positive. -
Phaenon — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:22 AM)
And that pro gun president encouraged his pro gun crowd to storm the Capitol in a coup attempt which thankfully failed.
I know this is just simply trolling by you but can't you see the metaphysical aspect to a troll proper?
It's a real shame, an understandable one though, that someone died as January 6th would have been the height of trolling for all of humanity
But now it's calling it a coup that is the trolling, a real cheap shot against a well polished shield of diamond.
Ding Dong
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:34 AM)
It was all sorts of things.
Coup attempt.
Insurrection.
Riot.
A take over of the electoral process.
Storming the Capitol.
Take your pick.
They all amount to the same thing which was not a picnic or a tourist visit.
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 