Up to how many kidnappers are we ok to kill, to save one innocent life?
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revengine — 10 years ago(October 21, 2015 10:19 PM)
Some? Try ALL. We're all born evil, some are just better at hiding it. As to the original question, you take out as many as are involved in the kidnapping. Ten, a hundred, a thousand, whatever. The kidnappers willingly got involved in the matter, they knew the Americans were going to do whatever it took to get back one of their own.
That's why it was important to get Phillips back before they got to Somalia, because the body count would have been a lot higher. Maybe a blood soaked, carnal reeking slaughter house of a rescue of Capt. Phillips from Somali territory would have been a good deterrent against further piracy. They'd realize the risk is no longer worth the reward.
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d_henderson1810 — 10 years ago(November 23, 2015 01:28 AM)
No. Evil can come from bad upbringing, lack of values, a sense of entitlement, personality flaws, greed, lust for power,
There are plenty of people who do evil things that have nothing to do with poverty. Hitler didn't invade Poland or exterminate the Jews because of poverty. Ted Bundy or Charles Manson didn't do their evil crimes because of poverty. ISIS don't commit terrorist attacks because of poverty.
There is no excuse for evil, no matter what the circumstances, since to commit a good or evil act comes down to choice, and when presented with a situation, your choice is your responsibilty. If you choose to commit evil, it is your fault, first and foremost, because you could have chosen to react differently and addressed the problem some other way. -
LetoMoon — 11 years ago(July 10, 2014 07:16 AM)
I said "army" with a lower case "a" to denote any national military organisation not confined to the US or to this movie, so your hostility is unwarranted.
Beyond that, saying you'd kill an infinite number of criminals is rather extreme don't you think? If a threat of murder for profit makes you infinitely angry, you would be doing nothing else in your life than hunting down criminals.
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bishop-scottm — 11 years ago(August 04, 2014 08:04 PM)
Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
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joe_538 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 07:37 PM)
I said "army" with a lower case "a" to denote any national military organisation not confined to the US or to this movie, so your hostility is unwarranted.
army: (rm)
noun- an organized military force equipped for fighting on
land. - the branch of a nation's armed services that conducts military operations on
land
. - a large number of people or things, typically formed or organized for a particular purpose.
navy: (nv)
noun - the branch of a nation's armed services that conducts military operations at
sea
. - a dark blue color.
- an organized military force equipped for fighting on
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Oleander2010 — 11 years ago(July 13, 2014 09:25 PM)
Lol, Joan Crawford would be proud- "NO WIRE HANGERS!"
Now, in all seriousness, you may want to make an appointment for a stress test. I'm sure it's not good for your heart to bust a lid so easily, given the tone of this thread. Or, I don't know, perhaps letting the jerk loose over the internet (digital courage) is your thang, yes, no?
Not even to say that I disagree with the gist of your post, but the original commenter was posing a question- not making a definitive statement, nor putting anyone down. I'm going to assume that your response is going to be somewhere along the lines of, "they asked for an opinion so I rightfully gave one;" and if that is so, good for youso wonderful to possess the emotional stability of a 5 year old and lack the ability to respond to situations appropriately.
"Blah, blah blah," I know, I've said too much.
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CGSailor — 11 years ago(July 14, 2014 10:41 AM)
"Blah, blah blah," I know, I've said too much.
"Tis better to remain silent and allow people to think you a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."
That you got what you did from my post shows that YOU have an issue with reading waaay too much into something when nothing was there to start. Perhaps you are "projecting" your own inadequacies onto others and attacking them for it.
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Oleander2010 — 11 years ago(July 14, 2014 06:05 PM)
No, not really, no projection here. I only read what you wrote. Your response was unnecessary for the situation, let alone rude- it's as simple as that. Perhaps you are "overcompensating" for your own insecurities and attacking others as a result.
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CGSailor — 11 years ago(July 14, 2014 06:45 PM)
Your response was unnecessary for the situation
You mean like your attacks upon my person talking about my insecurities and such?
So two wrongs make a right?
The OP was making some very bad assumptions, obviously based upon liberal ideology. I put him in his place and others have agreed as well.
YOU come along and attack me for it. If what I did was wrong in your eyes, your doing the same is not right.
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bubblenator — 11 years ago(July 14, 2014 08:17 PM)
So can Coast Guard Sailor go to ANY boards and/or ANY thread without ALIENATING himself from other posters with his rude, hostile and down right attacking other posters who don't have any military experience? If somebody asks a basic military question that most people would know doesn't mean you have to reply to the post but you just can't help yourself to try show off your "knowledge" like a big boy
So I bet Coast Guard Sailor thinks that kaymarie2010 (a 7 year member woman!) is ANOTHER sock puppet account of mine or that other guy. Even she thinks that
you are "overcompensating" for your own insecurities and attacking others as a result.
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Oleander2010 — 11 years ago(July 17, 2014 09:02 AM)
The OP was making some very bad assumptions, obviously based upon liberal ideology.
What assumptions?
Could you point out the bad assumptions? It's possible that I missed them. This is the OP's entire post.
Had this thought, because I myself didn't flinch at 3 unsavoury dudes being shot to save an American captain/husband/dad. But surely there must be a limit - can we snipe away 10 of them? A hundred? Thousands?
Does a $10 million demand and a threat of a murder automatically render a civilian open to undisputed execution by the army?
Just admit that you saw an opportunity to be rude and you took it. The pretenses your giving off are a bit of a stretch.
I put him in his place and others have agreed.
You called him/her ignorant for [accidentally?] using the word "army." Yep, you sure put them in their place.
Whatever, this is pointless. Please keep up the good fight; the darkest and deepest depths of IMDb are probably in need of your "telling off."
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Imdb11168 — 11 years ago(August 04, 2014 11:14 AM)
As soon as you threaten the life of another in the course of a criminal activity your life is forfeit.
CG Sailor, you have an irritated attitude about "liberal whites giving into issues regarding colored people "Am i right?
But what about Whites exploiting colored people today ? Google the Enrica Lexie incident, in this case the Italians were guilty of murder, but they seem to be getting away.
The point is that - one side you have a wretchedly poor Somali who was indulging in criminal activity to make a quick buck, maybe to get what - milk for his kid ? Still, he is wrong, and punishment HAD to be given. Then one other side you have 2 trigger happy men who should have been executed by now, but they will certainly get away scot free because they are WHITE ( no other word is better )
When the powerful and the rich, weather its a white man like the Italian Marines, or a brown man like me in a poor country, may be able to get away with some clout, i just feel sad for the way life deals its lessons to the less fortunate. If you realized this, you wouldn't be so aggressive towards liberals
I'm a liberal in some ways too. I'm a rich man in a poor country, and i wonder if i would have had the same moral, ethical standards if my kid was starving ?
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CGSailor — 11 years ago(August 04, 2014 04:50 PM)
The only person introducing race into the equation is you. In the statement of mine you quoted aboveI don't give a sh!t what color a person's skin is. Or what country he/she comes from.
If a white guy picks up a weapon and threatens an innocent for the commission of a crime, his life is forfeit.
It really REALLY pisses me off when asshats like you try to twist it into something racial and insinuate by it that I am a white racist somehow.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
