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    Todd_B — 9 years ago(October 22, 2016 10:05 PM)

    Actually legalization of child pornography lowers the rates of child abuse. Just like the legalization of adult pornography lowers the rates of rape.
    Legalization of digital (digital meaning animated, with no real people involved) child pornography would be victimless and would probably save endless thousands of kids from being abused since perpetrators would have an alternative.
    http://healthland.time.com/2010/12/02/study-making-pornography-more-accessible-may-curb-child-abuse/
    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2006/10/how_the_web_prevents_rape.html

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      emavo — 9 years ago(October 22, 2016 10:24 PM)

      Okay first, you should really cite raw data as a source to back up claims and not articles that fail to actually link the referenced studies in some way and don't get into any of the nitty gritty of the so-called experiments and data collection. Second, half of the Times article talks about how, in the opinion of an expert in the field, that the data in no way makes child pornography condonable. I can't comment further on these claims because I have no way to examine the "facts" presented and how they were obtained.
      On the second point, I'm not sure what you mean by digital child pornography.

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        laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 01:27 AM)

        What a load of nonsense. You do realise that children will still be being abused and harmed so the pornography is made.
        It's not a victimless crime. The kids in the videos and photos are real.

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          leiastarkiller — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 07:22 PM)

          Oh I'm sure you'd love videos of your children being raped to be legally distributed so thousands of pedos can jerk off to them against their will. What an absolutely appalling idea. Reading the paragraph you wrote made me feel physically sick. Seriously re-evaluate your life and your use on this planet if you think child porn should be legalized.

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            Todd_B — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 07:24 PM)

            I said digital child pornography. Assume legalization of digital child pornography (all animated, no real people involved) lowered the rates of child sexual abuse by 10-20%. That means tens of millions of children who will not be abused.
            Pornography provides a substitute for people's sexual urges. That is why when it is legalized the rates of sex crimes drop.

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              leiastarkiller — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 08:15 PM)

              Well a digital image isn't necessarily animated. It could just mean a digital photograph. If you're only talking about animations with no actual children involved then I'm not as disgusted as I thought. It's still gross but no victims in that case.

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                laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 12:55 AM)

                Wouldn't work. They'd get bored of it and it would just stir up feelings for the real thing.
                Pornography makes sexual urges worse.
                The only real solution is chemical castration, and that wouldn't really work for female pedophiles.

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                    emavo — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 10:27 AM)

                    troll

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                        PeterMarkoff — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 02:04 PM)

                        you can still take hormones to negate effects of chemical castration

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                          MissMisanthropist — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 05:26 PM)

                          Chemical castration doesn't always work for males either. A lot of them have reported still having the urges despite the fact that they can't get aroused. The thing is that it is possible, POSSIBLE, to treat people who are pedophiles and have never offended. The PROBLEM is that more than likely they will eventually offend because the material only holds them for so long. Though it's interesting you brought up female pedophiles. This show seemed to completely ignore the fact that any person other than a man could be a pervert or unfaithful or whatever which annoyed me.

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                              shigui — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 06:33 AM)

                              Child pornography should not be legalised. I think people who advocate for it are just pedophiles themselves and want easy access.
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                                laurendorward-990-190608 — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 06:46 AM)

                                Quite shigui.

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                                  toricrawford — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 11:07 AM)

                                  While he might have an innate sexual fondness for children that one could argue he was born with and has no control over, what you refer to as a sexual proclivity for children, this 100% does not release him from being responsible for his choice to act upon it. He was looking at pictures of children. Where did those pictures come from? What children are in the pictures, and why were they posted? There are sick, twisted people who cater to pedophiles and physically, emotionally, psychologically harm children in order to supply pedophiles just like Kenny. Kenny's desire to look at pictures of children absolutely harms children. He is absolutely responsible for his actions which directly causes children to be harmed. He doesn't have to touch a child to cause harm. That doesn't mean I didn't sympathize with his plight; he was a sympathetic character- he was meant to be, but he did harm children, and I expect they were young children as was alluded to when he interacted with the young girl in the restaurant, and by the way his mom was freaking out.

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                                    danavenell — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 11:13 AM)

                                    What if they were just drawings of children? What if they are a collection of images taken from what some idiots put up of their own children half-naked on the beach or in the bath on Facebook (which I always report). Is a child suffering then? (Not that it's ok to wank over them).
                                    My answer to child porn is that every pedophile that gets caught, they should take their child photos and photoshop them doing all the sex stuff. Then other pedos looking for child porn would find that. I have written to the government with my idea but they have not replied yet.

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                                      PeterMarkoff — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 02:08 PM)

                                      what's wrong with naked children in Facebook? i guess you report also breastfeeding mothers
                                      i am glad i live in Europe and certainly not in place you live where people are obsessed with pedophilia and anything innocent is blown out of proportions
                                      the reason i don't put photos of my child to Facebook is because it deserves privacy, but it has nothing to do with being naked or not

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                                        danavenell — 9 years ago(October 28, 2016 02:30 PM)

                                        what's wrong with naked children in Facebook?
                                        They have not consented to be seen, possibly in a sexual light, by loads of people.
                                        I'm against the sharing of any children on FB too, though i don't report it because its not against FB's rules. But i do think those kids haven't consented to have their whole lives shared on the internet and i am very glad my childhood was not broadcast to various friends, relatives and strangers.

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                                          PeterMarkoff — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 01:59 AM)

                                          well their parents are their legal guardians so they are deciding their consent and they should be aware of consequences of sharing children photos online, it should not be up to anyone else to decide this

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