Ann-Margret, Nicholson Fight Scene
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gschwertley — 13 years ago(January 20, 2013 08:05 PM)
Yes, without meaning to be condescending, I think this film cannot be fully appreciated until a bit later in one's life. By that time, most people have had the life experience of the frustrations and disappointments of relationships.
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liscarkat-2 — 13 years ago(March 05, 2013 11:38 AM)
"it's chauvanistic to tell a woman to get a job?!"
Not at all. He's frustrated because all she does is lie around all day and won't even make the bed. Nothing sexist about that. He's just sick of the BS and wants her to get her act together. -
shadycady — 13 years ago(March 09, 2013 05:47 AM)
Jonathan told her to quit her job, and he said that he had enough money to support the two of them. Bobbie quit her job, and she became bored with life staying at home to wait on him. She was older than him, and she stuck around in hope of him marrying her. She thought that she didn't have that many options available, and by getting married she would have found her brass ring. She found her identity through him, and by having a relationship it validated her self-worth through him. Therefore, she stayed in the relationship no matter how demeaning it became. She probably would have settled for anyone by then. His character was never satisfied with any woman no matter how beautiful, and he always found the flaws and not the positive side to them. Susan was too sharp, and Bobbie was too dumb and a doormat. Cindy was a "ballbuster". What the hell did he want anyway? His standards were too high, but yet he didn't even see his flaws.
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joshua_carpino — 13 years ago(March 20, 2013 12:55 AM)
liscarkat-2,somebody else said it was chauvanistic to tell a woman to get a job and i was reacting to that(note the "?!" in my post). shadycady,jonathon himself admitted his problem:the only person who could make him happy was himself.
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shadycady — 13 years ago(March 20, 2013 06:29 AM)
He ended up alone, and his only self-gratification was hiring a prostitute who told him how great he was because he couldn't get it up anymore. I don't think he was happy. He didn't know how to make himself happy.
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Donna2.0 — 2 months ago(January 16, 2026 02:15 AM)
Very chauvinistic, but fantastic and a great scene from its time. Every time I hear it I'd wonder what move it was from - I finally found out today after doing a search here.
I was unprepared for how that argument escalated. I'm not surprised at watching Nicholson lose his **** cuz I've seen it a lot of times in plenty of his later work.
It's just how the character went from his normal reserved personality into THAT!
It was outstanding. And you feel his pain but at the same time hate his guts for treating her that way.
Put a muzzle on Tits Malone, PI