The greatest superhero movie of all time
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bud-47 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 10:52 AM)
Not sure what you're trying to do here. You've already shared your opinion on this film several times. We get that you really liked it, but this is starting to seem suspicious, bordering on shill territory.
I know you have this habit of looking at these films through rose-colored glasses and insisting that no matter what, Singer and Fox can do no wrong here. I admire your devotion and loyalty to Fox and these films and I can see you (and a few others here) are trying very hard to cheer this film on by trying to spread good word of mouth (even though it's theatrical run is nearly finished). But this film's mixed reception and relatively disappointing box office returns reflects a noticeable decline from DOFP. Either you're part of the minority that genuinely sees something that no one else does or there is another agenda here. -
hafabee — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 12:20 PM)
I don't have an agenda here beyond pleasure, you'll just have to take my word for it that I loved this movie, and a lot of recent X-Men movies including
Deadpool
and
X-Men Days of Future Past
.
I know a lot of people are liking that Bryan Singer is stepping down and that new directors will be taking over the series from now on, but I'm not. I think he's done a fantastic job with the series overall and I'm worried that the next X-Men movie won't live up to the recent tradition of excellence. The one good thing I can say about moving forward is the foundation that's been set is great; good cast of actors here and well established characters will go along way towards keeping the series good. But I do have my doubts about the quality being there with Singer's departure because the guy has been so committed to making great X-Men movies, it's obviously a labour of love for the guy, and personal movies to him as well seeing as how he's a gay man, and the central theme to these X-Men movies is the socio-political concept of "The Other".
In short, I likely won't get into future X-Men movies as much as the recent ones, but who knows, maybe they'll be excellent! Matthew Vaughn certainly did a great job with
X-Men First Class
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LukeLovesFilm28 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 12:33 PM)
A new filmmaker is probably not gonna be capable of building the suspense and emotional investment that I got from this movie. Even though I know it all turns out well (given the end of DOFP), I was literally worried that they wouldn't reach the Professor in time. I was literally worried that they wouldn't be able to stop Apocalypse. But I was also wondering what they were planning with Jean and then, I felt overwhelmed with joy that they were going to give us The Phoenix that we always wanted to see. I don't feel that intensely when I watch Captain America or The Avengers movies or Guardians of the Galaxy, etc. Singer had a BIG HURDLE to leap over, suspending the audience's knowledge of what will happen (as he laid out in DOFP) and give those audiences some new thrills. And for my money, Singer succeeded in spades.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin. -
hafabee — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 01:07 PM)
Agreed on pretty much every point, the X-Men movies have a level of tension, danger and suspense that I haven't seen from any other recent comic book movie endeavour save for Christopher Nolan's Batman movies, and I'm not sure you could even call those current anymore.
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LukeLovesFilm28 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 11:03 AM)
A week ago, weren't you saying that Apocalypse isn't quite as good as Days of Future Past?
I've seen Apocalypse 8 times and as entertaining as it is, I myself can't bring myself to say that this is more satisfying and fulfilling as DOFP. Singer may have raised the bar way too high with DOFP. Living up to it is gonna be a bitch.
However, that said, I think Apocalypse is a damn good superhero movie. I am far more emotional invested in X-Men: Apocalypse and all the characters in it than I am whenever I watch The Avengers.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin. -
hafabee — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 12:11 PM)
I think
X-Men Days of Future Past
is a better character-centric story, it was more intimate and had better character development in the case of Charles Xavier, I love his arc in
X-Men Days of Future Past
, but I like the action, style, villain, flow and wealth of characters in
X-Men Apocalypse
more. I think this was just a better all around superhero movie, a bigger challenge artistically (although
X-Men Days of Future Past
was expertly made and was a better dramatic movie) and more fun. I'm giving the edge to
X-Men Apocalypse
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LukeLovesFilm28 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 12:40 PM)
It was all wonderfully crafted to hook the audience, make them forget the end of DOFP and thrill the hell out of us. But I feel like there wasn't enough payoff for my investment.
Or maybe I'm paying too much attention to what the critics are saying.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin. -
hafabee — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 12:46 PM)
I seriously doubt that the critics' opinions affected you that much!
You just like other superhero movies better. To each their own, I've just been loving this movie more and more over time, and I went in pretty hyped for it too so it certainly had some large expectations of mine to overcome. I think it's a little bit more shallow than most of the X-Men movies have been, and I can understand that as being a complaint, but it's all so well performed and crafted that in my opinion, it still manages to upstage the likes of
X-Men Days of Future Past
and
X2
by a small margin, and any other superhero movie you can think of too. -
LukeLovesFilm28 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 12:50 PM)
Stop treating me like I'm not a fan. I'm here trying to defend this movie against incredibly backlash and it's all due to these peoples' lazy misunderstanding of the film's craftsmanship. As a novice filmmaker, getting to know his own skills with cinematography, that gets so frustrating for me.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin. -
hafabee — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 12:58 PM)
Oh I know you're a fan, I didn't mean anything by it, it's just that I have my doubts that critics affected your opinion on the movie much, you're a smart guy and know what you like and write well about your opinions too. Just because it's not your favourite doesn't mean you didn't like it! You so plainly did.
I don't know why the critics turned their noses up at this movie, to me it doesn't make any sense but it doesn't matter, I liked it! I'm just glad I didn't pay them much mind, most of them were way off on
X-Men Apocalypse
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LukeLovesFilm28 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 01:14 PM)
Again, I don't think they fcking realize what Singer had to do here and succeed at with this movie. He set up the fact that this universe has a bright happy future at the end of DOFP. I didn't think of the end of DOFP once while watching Apocalypse. In fact, I was so invested with what was going on in this film, it was hard to remember that Mystique saved Wolverine in the end of DOFP too. So, I had to put two and two together and realize that it's been 10 years since the events of DOFP and so much could've happened in that time.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin. -
samhmd-7489 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 06:40 PM)
Again, I don't think they fcking realize what Singer had to do here and succeed at with this movie. He set up the fact that this universe has a bright happy future at the end of DOFP.
If he had any foresight, this wouldn't have been a problem. -
LukeLovesFilm28 — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 06:56 PM)
It's not a problem. The craftsmanship in Apocalypse and DOFP has just gone over your head like it went over the heads of those stupid critics.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin. -
LukeLovesFilm28 — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 04:00 AM)
LMAO. That's the new and "great" filmmaking style?? World-building?? Audiences have to see a bunch of mediocre separate films to fully get to know the characters in The Avengers and that's a good thing?? You fanboys really sound like idiots sometimes.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin.