The van kidnapping scene really turned me off.. should i keep watching?
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haxemon — 9 years ago(June 14, 2016 05:30 PM)
It's a great example of people who refuse to think for more than 2 seconds about the show.
Yeah, it's an option someone should consider, but after a moment it becomes pretty clear there are some serious questions with that approach. Jessica herself warns Trish not to look at him even when she has the headphones on. That suggests to me that Jessica doesn't think their foolproof. Could Kilgrave command her to remove them with a simple gesture if she looked at him? Was Jessica really only talking about Trish not looking at him so he doesn't realize it's not Jessica? That's an odd way to phrase it if that's all it was about.
Anyway, sarcasm, earplugs, pretending you don't hear - love to see folks test these ideas out in a real life Kilgrave situation.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(June 14, 2016 07:03 PM)
I'm one who's always believed that Kilgrave's powers do work even with physical gestures. Yeah, that's why the earphone thing would be worthless. The only reason Jessica was able to break free of Kilgrave's grasp and never be able to controlled by his powers again was the simple fact that her body had been exposed to Kilgrave for many more, and longer, periods of time than most victims. Enough for the body to build up immunity once she did break free.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(June 14, 2016 07:09 PM)
Yeah it's never shown on the show, but it seems Jessica at least thinks it is possible.
And really, nobody, not even Kilgrave or his father, know how his powers work.
As for Jessica, yes, her prolonged exposure combined with her powers probably account for her being able to break free. However I like the irony in the idea that somehow Kilgrave believing he loved her had something to do with it. i.e. in some way he wanted Jessica to chose him on her own so maybe somehow subconsciously he's setting her free. Though I freely admit there's nothing to substantiate it, just my own theory. In fact, not even a theory as much as a notion I find ironic and somehow a knife twist on Kilgrave.
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luthien_tinuviel86 — 9 years ago(June 15, 2016 06:42 AM)
Jessica wanted to get a confession out of Kilgrave to get the blonde girl out of prison- that's why she didn't kill him or even broke his jaw.
Ear-plugs (the normal ones you can buy in a drug-store) don't block sound completely and you can still understand what people are saying if they're talking loud enough.
Also, Jessica wasn't sure how his powers worked- maybe his power was in his voice, but it could've been something partially telepathic as well.
She also didn't want to seriously hurt his bodyguards because they were probably innocent, so she probably held her punches. The guys she beat up at the bar though- they chose to start a fight out of their own free will, so Jessica and Luke had no issues kicking their butts.
As for the bodyguards, it's not entirely impossible that they were in fact superhuman, because there is already a temporary super-strength serum in the show and we have no idea who created it and who else is using it.
The cars were not following them; they didn't have to, since Kilgrave had a tracker on him, so there was nothing to notice.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 05:12 AM)
Ear-plugs (the normal ones you can buy in a drug-store) don't block sound completely and you can still understand what people are saying if they're talking loud enough.
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Metatron_Fallen — 9 years ago(July 23, 2016 10:26 AM)
She thought they were being controlled by Kilgrave so she didn't want to seriously hurt them. She even says that to her male accomplice during the fight.
And this makes sense- you wouldn't just decapitate someone who is essentially innocent when they don't have control of what they're doing.
But she does react to pain and injury. And they keep tazing her- it seems to slow her down enough so that they can get multiple tazers on her.
Thor has always been a comic favorite of mine but I note that in the Thor movie with Natalie Portman, Thor was knocked unconscious by a tazer from Kat Dennings.
You're watching a super-hero television series and complaining about logic.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(July 24, 2016 07:23 AM)
She thought they were being controlled by Kilgrave so she didn't want to seriously hurt them. She even says that to her male accomplice during the fight.
Yeah, I do agree that yeah, Jessica's own personal experiences with Kilgrave in the past would cloud her judgment and make the idea that Kilgrave would have failsafes in case his powers failed seem impossible. Hell, we even saw that with the family Jessica had to fight off after saving Simpson's life earlier in the show. -
Kris_AB — 9 years ago(August 12, 2016 10:34 AM)
Thor has always been a comic favorite of mine but I note that in the Thor movie with Natalie Portman, Thor was knocked unconscious by a tazer from Kat Dennings.
At that point in the first Thor film, Thor's been stripped of his hammer and armour and, in theory, may have been sapped of some of his strength and durability as well. I don't remember Odin's exact wording, but he banished his son to Earth for a bit to live among them and learn humility, so the only way to really accomplish that would be to remove his god-like (compared to us humans' capabilities) strength. Thor still had about as much strength as a human of his size and fitness level, plus he still had who-knows-how-many-centuries-or-millenia of fighting experience and know-how and battle experience (we never do find out how old he is, do we?). But he wouldn't take a tazing as well as a gifted/a supersoldier like Jessica, in his reduced state.
Just my theory.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(October 14, 2016 09:11 AM)
Man I wish I had a nickel for every "should I keep watching" or "does it get better" thread.
Walk up to kilgrave witb qaulity earplugs, break his jaw. Its over
Try that and see what happens. What if he has bodyguards with him that he has hired? What if he has mind-controlled some gym rats to kill anyone that touches him? What if he manages to tell you to pull out your own eyes despite his broken jaw? What if he simply mimes the idea to you and you understand what he wants?
But to answer the spirit of your question: Not everyone loved this show. So you might not either. The only way to know for sure if you'll like it is to watch it. Or if you don't feel it's worth watching then don't.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 09:17 PM)
Some of the posters here really frustrate me because it's obvious they were only half paying attention when watching.
"Walk up to kilgrave witb qaulity earplugs, break his jaw. Its over, but whats the fun in that? And logic?"
Because that would be incredibly suicidal. For one thing, even if you were rendered unable to hear commands, you'd have no idea what the people around you were being commanded to do. There's also the fact that Kilgrave could simply bypass that by just shouting his commands at you, since most earplugs don't cancel out all noise.
If posters here had paid attention to the show or just used their brains a little bit, they wouldn't have these stupid complaints. This show is very well written and complex and they directly address the issues that people seem to have with it.