I wasn't expecting anything except a dark-themed detective series. I'm really enjoying Luke Cage, but didn't know until
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kidjay83 — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 11:36 AM)
I'm surprised they even thought to make a series on this. Nothing about this series felt like it was a tale of a Superhero or even Marvel comic. This was like watching a lifetime flick. It was extremely raunchy, redundant, lacking any real positive characters and actually it felt like it took forever to end it was very boring. 12-13 episodes about finding one very uninteresting villain with a dull ending. I'm not even sure why the picked such an uninteresting dull marvel B comic character like Jessica Jones to make a series on to begin with when there's so many other characters in the Marvel line up with better more interesting stories and villains.
My thoughts from the beginning JJ is not important and not all that popular character period .The show did feel too much like a lifetime femlae empowerment piece instead of a comic super hero .First of all if this is who feminists chose to represent them in this universe than JJ's is a loser through and through .She is the worst example of the type of person why not pick a better example of a more empowering character like She-hulk.I'm currently watching Luke Cage and i think too myself why didn't they just start off with the luke cage series instead? .Why even bother making a JJ's the best part about JJ was luke cage to be honest.Luke Cage is 10x's better and more interesting and feels more like a comic book show as it should .JJ's was redundant because she had all these abilities and she could of ended kilgrave in the first episode .They did 13 episodes of this show it took her 13 episodes to take down a mortal human being ? its just stupid .She seems inadequate to do the basic things she plays victim the entire show how weak and pathetic is that and its not interesting either .
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 10:10 PM)
.JJ's was redundant because she had all these abilities and she could of ended kilgrave in the first episode.
SHE DID NOT KNOW THAT SHE WAS IMMUNE TO KILGRAVE. Did you ever get that part? Furthermore, she wanted to keep Kilgrave alive in hopes that that would get Hope exonerated.
They did 13 episodes of this show it took her 13 episodes to take down a mortal human being ?
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haxemon — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 06:49 AM)
Takes all kinds I guess.
Ironic that some people didn't "get" Kilgrave while so many others think he was the best villain to date and the best part of JJ.
I can understand how some people didn't really enjoy JJ as it is a very different type of story. But I thought that was the best part of it. I was hoping from the outset of the MCU that they would make more unique films. For example, I was sort of hoping Captain America would basically be Saving Private Ryan but with one guy having a shield. i.e. instead of lasers and ray guns. But even so it still ended up with a different "feel" than the other films. Marvel was just a bit more cautious that I would have been.
JJ marks a big step forward in Marvel broadening their horizons. Hopefully Doctor Strange is another big step in that direction.
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Uberiffic — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 10:30 PM)
Yes, Luke Cage is WAY better than this thing.
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airfaith — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 05:21 PM)
You clearly 100% have never read a Marvel Comic outside of anything mainstream before like Spiderman and alike, certainly not the defenders that is for sure, the series was great, something a little different, fit in perfectly with the daredevil series.
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airfaith — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 03:51 AM)
Stick to your generic typical superhero shows mate, obviously anything outside of your comfort zone is "bad" and make those that enjoy it "not real comic fans" despite most of them liking it because they are comicbook fans who enjoyed the comics. really not that hard to follow.
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sfb1982 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 04:09 AM)
Yes this show is garbage.
Never been a fan a Ritter and this show didn't change my mind.
I put watching this show off for so long for a reason but I loved Luke Cage and Daredevil so I thought I'd give it a chance.
I can't stand Rachel Taylor's character and I was filthy they didn't kill her off. Idk why, but I am a fan of Rachel Taylor as an actor but just the character rubs me the wrong way for some reason.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:05 AM)
This is certainly a very different series and very polarizing. Someone expecting "more Daredevil" type stuff or who really is into the more traditional vigilante type of show is likely at a disadvantage.
Someone who likes noir or psychological dramas or who is eager for a new take on the "get powers, become a hero" trope is more likely to like this series.
I know you're just stating your opinion and it's valid of course - and others have a similar take. But for me, I liked the way this show was very different from other shows in the genre. I watch nearly everything even loosely "comic book" and I'm getting a bit tired of the formula where someone gets powers, practices on a roof top, sews a costume and then fights crime like a boy scout.
Seeing Jessica first reject/hide her powers and then later on come to fear her own powers was a great new take. And honestly, as much as people day dream of getting bit by a radioactive spider and saving the world, if a teenage kid woke up to find their family dead and that they now have powers they can't explain, I think they would freak out much like Jessica did. Then add to that someone later in life abusing that person and their powers to the point of having them kill an innocent person - wow man.
Anyway, to each their own.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 02:32 PM)
The way I see it, I think some of those put off by
Jessica Jones
aren't put off by her being a woman, but the genre of the show. The Netflix protagonists are more like antiheroes in traditional detective-film noir works (
Luke Cage
is the MCU version of The Wire,
Jessica Jones
is a psychological thriller with horror elements, and
Daredevil
is a crime drama). And these antiheroes are flawed, not pure-hearted and godlike. And superpowers are more of a liability than a benefit. Matt Murdock gets beaten up to the point of needing medical treatment pretty regularly. Will Simpson's "Reds" make him stronger but also cause him to go insane. Luke Cage has durable skin, but it's a pain in the ass to treat him when something injures him like a shotgun at point-blank range or a Judas bullet. Mind control turns Kilgrave into a 21st century version of Gyp Rosetti. On and on. -
dmcreif — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 08:00 AM)
Then add to that someone later in life abusing that person and their powers to the point of having them kill an innocent person - wow man.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 08:12 AM)
Fair enough. Though I think the impact on Jessica is the same. Unless Jessica at some point discovers Reva's involvement (which is entirely possible). At that point it may help a bit in her dealing with it.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 09:12 AM)
Fair enough. Though I think the impact on Jessica is the same. Unless Jessica at some point discovers Reva's involvement (which is entirely possible). At that point it may help a bit in her dealing with it.
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haxemon — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 09:34 AM)
Yup.
If IGH is mentioned in any way at all during Iron Fist then that should seal it. I sure hope it's not "the source" of his (or Daredevil's) powers though.
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KthulhuX — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 03:36 AM)
Marvel definitely doesn't have the rights to X-23 or Psylocke. And one of the reasons I liked the idea of a Jessica Jones series so much was that she was such an obscure character. She brought less baggage to the table than characters that a lot of people know a bit about. And I disagree that X-23, Psylocke, or Spider-Woman are any more interesting than Jessica. Not to take anything away from those characters, who are all interesting in their own rights, but Jessica allows the writers to explore a dimension that has very rarely been touched uponthe "failed" hero and her redemption.
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derrick-beaumont — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 05:17 AM)
And one of the reasons I liked the idea of a Jessica Jones series so much was that she was such an obscure character.
She brought less baggage to the table than characters that a lot of people know a bit about.
Sorry I think your point is wrong here. You would have to rearrange "baggage" with a word like "Attachments" or "Priorities". As she has plenty of mental trauma which is highlighted and those kinds of issues are considered "baggage," same as things like having children or a troublesome ex can be.