He's not funny…at all.
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MyHandsAreTied — 18 years ago(July 23, 2007 01:00 AM)
for you to not think he's funny is an opinion and we're all, definitely, entitled to have that and to disagree with on another. i, personally, love will forte. i think he's one of the reasons snl is starting to step it back up. i can't wait for the brothers solomon. it's all relative. i just don't like when people post on message boards talking about how much they dislike something/someone. to me, it just comes across as condescending and rude. i know you were civil in your opinion and i can respect that. i'm just saying, in general, when people do what you did, it's always to show how dumb others are for thinking that. i've seen people, on message boards, trash actors and movies i love and act like i'm an idiot for liking such things. i've heard it about wes anderson films. i've heard it about 111cshows like; tom goes to the mayor or aqhf. and tons others. i just say if you don't like something, don't like it. you don't have to voice it to their fans.
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CanOfVegetables — 18 years ago(July 28, 2007 04:37 AM)
interesting. i never poked fun at will forte fans or you, just voiced my opinion, which is the exact same thing you're doing in your post, voicing an opinion.
also, i was stating pretty valid/thought out reasons as to why i do not think he is funny, not just the typical "he's not funny, he's an ass, you're an ass if you like him" routine. your post is a valid one, just not towards me.
the message board world is not filled with positive comments, as we both know, and it shouldn't be. the whole reason behind the forums is for average joes, like you and i, to have a voice and i think we can both agree if that voice were only reserved for the positive, it would be cutting out 50% of thought. not good.
i do not find will forte in the least bit entertaining. you do. and that's perfectly ok.
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MyHandsAreTied — 18 years ago(July 29, 2007 04:13 PM)
i never meant to imply that you were one of the "in general" people that i was talking about. and i'm all for differing opinions and debates and all that, but it's USUALLY not a debate. it's usually people throwing insults towards one another. i could do without that, honestly. again, i didn't think your approach was wrong or bad in anyway. it's nice to see civil conversation on message boards, i guess i just don't see the point in going to the carlos mencia forums to tell everyone how much i think he sucks, or whatever, you know?
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CanOfVegetables — 18 years ago(July 29, 2007 05:03 PM)
message boards would be way too boring and pointless if only fans posted positive comments like "OMG!, carlos mencia is sooooo funny, don't ya'll think so? LOL". do you not agree?
the carlos mencia fans need to know he is a joke stealer and not actually mexican and that hisb68 real name is ned. i actually think it would be a great idea if you went to his forums and posted that
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MyHandsAreTied — 18 years ago(July 29, 2007 11:07 PM)
although, i agree with you on your opinion of carlos (ned) and how he's a fake and not remotely funny; it's not my place to tell people he's not funny because i don't have the final say so on that. if someone asks my opinion i'll say something. to some people he's funny, though. if you go tell people how he's a hack that steals jokes, that's one thing because that is fact. there is proof he's stolen jokes. him being funny or not is relative. i don't find anything he does funny, but someone does. i don't know why they find him funny, but they do. i don't think message boards would be boring without conflict. i enjoy talking to people that love the same movie as i do, or same music.1c84 i don't want to go to a place where fans of a certain thing generally go and have to argue with someone on their differing opinion. if you don't like an actor why come to their page to voice your opinion? why not just keep it to yourself and move on? just because you don't find will forte funny doesn't mean he's not funny. it just means he's not funny to you. and that doesn't prove anything. so you coming here to tell his fans you think he isn't funny does nothing. it doesn't spark any kind of debate or provoke thought. it's like "okay, you don't like him. good for you."
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CanOfVegetables — 18 years ago(August 02, 2007 04:43 PM)
you should really re-read my comments before you post your own. i never said msg boards would be boring without conflict. i was stating that msg boards would be boring if it were only fans praising the topic at hand, as opposed to different view points being raised. people voicing different opinions does not always equal conflict. also, again, if you read my posts, you'd know that i didn't just write "will forte is not funny", i actually backed up my stance with reasons, instead of just a blanket statement.
and for arguments sakewhen you stated: "if you don't like an actor why come to their page to voice your opinion? why not just keep it to yourself and move on?"
i could use that same logic and state: if you like an actor, why come to a msg board and tell everyone you like them, why not keep it to yourself?
you see, that makes no sense. message boards are for people to voice their opinions, whether positive or negative. if it were nothing but all positive or all negative comments, it would make for some very boring reading material.
is it wrong for people to voice negative opinions about the president if they don't agree with him or about a company that has a shady background? do you think all negative opinions should be kept to the individual and not voiced? not a lot of freedom in that, huh?
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MyHandsAreTied — 18 years ago(August 05, 2007 09:46 AM)
disclaimer***i hope you do read all of this, however, i feel that you won't. so don't respond if you only read it half-ass and skim over parts. you'll only misquote me and take it out of context.
first of all, if you look up conflict in the dictionary it says; to come into collision or disagreement; be contradictory, at variance, or in opposition; clash.
read that very carefully.
now your repelies are getting a little rude. i read your post just fine and i was not rude to you. and i can use your words too; if you would have really read my post you would see that i wasn't saying you specifically were coming in here saying "will forte is not funny" i said that IN GENERAL read it one more time, IN GENERAL when people come to message boards to talk about disliking someone it's to trash their fans etc. i didn't say you personally, but i did say that's why i don't like posts like that because it usually ends with people being rude to each other.
and i still disagree that message boards would be boring without differing points of views. i talk with my friends all the time about anchor16d0 man, because we love that movie. we joke about parts we like and laugh and have a good time. usually when i ask somone if they like anchor man and they say no, the conversation usually doesn't go far beyond that because we obviously don't have that in common. that's why people go to message boards of certain actors, bands etc. not to discuss differing view BUT to talk about common interests. do you get that at all? fanbased message boards aren't for people that aren't fans.
your logic is weak, in my opinion. your comparision about the president is a horrible one. first of all, if there is a george bush website with a message board, it was probably intended for people who like bush. not people who want to trash him. there's nothing wrong with differing opinions or even voicing them, but i don't go out of my way to talk to people about how i dislike bush. i don't look up where the local republican campus meet up is and go in there to tell them i think bush is dumb and evil and then tell them why i think so. no, i don't go there. if anything i'd talk to my friends who don't like bush and we'd all get along because we agree on it. i hope this sinks in with you.
just to recap, incase you're too lazy to read my entire post;
the reason you come to a FAN page is to discuss common interest. that's what they were created for. not for conflict (again, look up conflict because you apparently don't know what it means)
message boards wouldn't make for boring reading material if it was just positive. unless you're a person who likes to start arguments. then, yes, i guess it would be boring. not all message boards are intended for ANY opinion. a bands message board is for fans, not for haters. so don't act like it's an absolute. it's not.
you're trying to put words in my mouth. again, if YOU would read MY post you would see i said there was nothing wrong with differing opinions. i even complimented you on how you approached stating yours, but i still don't agree this is the forum for you, if you don't like will forte, it's not the forum for you. it wasn't designed for you.
maybe i was wrong about you actually being polite. maybe you really did just come here to stir things up, but you tried to cover it with politeness. hm, i guess you only know that one. -
CanOfVegetables — 18 years ago(August 27, 2007 03:13 PM)
alright matthew, this is becoming a little childish. i have no idea how you took my former post to be rude, b/c it definitely was not. i corrected some of your verbal mistakes and your logic/reasoning, but i never said anything rude to, or about you.
one thing you need to realize thoughimdb is not a fan site. if you google will forte's name, i imagine someone out there with poor taste in comedy has actually devoted a fan page to him, but it's not his page on imdb.com. imdb is an information site that details the career (both good and bad) of people in the entertainment industry. if anything, this thread that you're posting in, is titled, "he's not funnyat all". that suggest it's a thread for people who are not fans of will forte. using your own logic against you - wouldn't you be wrong for coming into a message board that is clearly against will forte, and posting your positive comments for him? you even said "but i still don't agree this is the forum for you, if you don't like will forte, it's not the forum for you. it wasn't designed for you." fair enough, but tell me matthew, where is the forum for people who do not like will forte? where can our voices be heard? should we be silenced?
i believe my president bush argument is valid. i was responding to your earlier post when you said "why not just keep opinions to yourself and move on?". i was res111cponding to that alone, and to that, my point is completely valid. you took my bush argument and ran with it and exaggerated it to somehow turn it into me going to republican meetings in order to tell everyone he is dumb and evil. where in the world did you come up with that? once again, you must realize that will forte's imdb page is not his personal fan page. it's a page that details his career (both good and bad). please do not confuse the two.
look, it's ridiculous we're even debating this. i happen to think the imdb message boards are for people to voice their opinions, positive and negative, and you think they're only for fans with positive feedback. fine. i totally disagree, but if you feel that way, again, it's your opinion.
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MyHandsAreTied — 17 years ago(April 23, 2008 11:11 AM)
one thing you need to realize thoughimdb is not a fan site. if you google will forte's name, i imagine someone out there with poor taste in comedy has actually devoted a fan page to him, but it's not his page on imdb.com. imdb is an information site that details the career (both good and bad) of people in the entertainment industry. if anything, this thread that you're posting in, is titled, "he's not funnyat all". that suggest it's a thread for people who are not fans of will forte. using your own logic against you - wouldn't you be wrong for coming into a message board that is clearly against will forte, and posting your positive comments for him? you even said "but i still don't agree this is the forum for you, if you don't like will forte, it's not the forum for you. it wasn't designed for you." fair enough, but
I realize imdb ITSELF is not a fansite, but generally people go to specific actors pages that they are fans of to see what they are up to, and they generally go there to talk with other fans. Now, I realize this is not a rule, because we live in a free country and you can go wherever you want and say whatever you want. I'm not saying YOU CANNOT come here and trash him. What I am saying is, why would you care so much to come here and trash him where fans come to talk about how they like a person? Why all the efforts? I don't go to the imdb page of people I don't like to post h16d0ow much I hate them because I know that a good majority of the people posting on those boards are fans and unless I'm in the mood to argue I'm not going to stir up trouble. I have no problems with them liking someone I do not. And I especially don't tell someone they have "poor taste", as you put it, when they like something I don't. It's comments like that that I consider to be rude and condescending. You're acting as if your tastes are superior.
tell me matthew, where is the forum for people who do not like will forte? where can our voices be heard? should we be silenced?
Why do you need a forum for that? Why do you have to be heard? Are you so conceited that you have to go rain on everyone else's parade? Do the masses have to hear what you think about everything? Do you go to a message board about swiss cheese to tell them it sucks and that they are dumb for liking it? Why not just let them enjoy swiss cheese without having to defend it's tasty goodness?
i believe my president bush argument is valid. i was responding to your earlier post when you said "why not just keep opinions to yourself and move on?". i was responding to that alone, and to that, my point is completely valid. you took my bush argument and ran with it and exaggerated it to somehow turn it into me going to republican meetings in order to tell everyone he is dumb and evil. where in the world did you come up with that?
That's fine. I believe your bush argument is completely invalid. And I was responding to your analogy and that single analogy alone. I believe my point was made. If you hate bush you don't go talk to republicans about it, do you? You generally talk to your friends friends that agree with you. Of course I exaggerated and ran with it. That's what people do when they are trying to get you to see something. They make the statement obvious. Where did I come up with that you ask? It was my correlation between your bush/forte link. Since you apparently didn't get what I was saying here it is, broken down; in my correlation bush = forte. The republican campus meetings = a will forte message board. Do you get it now?
once again, you must realize that will forte's imdb page is not his personal fan page. it's a page that details his career (both good and bad). please do not confuse the two.
Usually people go places, read things, keep company with people/things that interest them. Things that they like. Now, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with people that hate will forte to come to his page. Not even saying your post about you thinking he isn't funny is wrong. My point is, it's pointless for you to do so. Why bother? Why come here and cause a fuss? You know, good and well, you're going to get a fan that argues with you. This may not be an official fanpage of will forte or anyone else on imdb, but I'm going to say that is what it's intended for. You can voice your opinion here all you want, buy why do it? that's all I want to know. -
movie_geek3722 — 15 years ago(May 24, 2010 01:25 PM)
you know, this is for both of you, my mother told me, as im sure she told you two, if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all. now to post a contradiction to that rule. you both are acting like children, im here trying to read posts by fans of this actor and all im reading is you two arguing like two 8 year olds fighting over a cookie. the adult thing to do would be to stop commenting on each other and forget it. and "canofvegetables", you ARE conflicting although you said you weren't. i agree that this board was as negative as can be, but still. you did flame him and in continuing this arguement you ARE flaming will forte's fans. and im not sure if it occurred to you, but perhaps will forte's comedic style is exactly as it appears. and im sure that you are not a PAID ACTOR who makes a crapload of money, so i feel that this animosity comes from your inability to do what will forte has. and if you feel that so many people agree with you, why is he STILL on snl? why did they make a MOVIE starring him? oh, right. its because he IS funny, my grandmother even thinks so. sure, she hates his "filthy mouth" as she so sweetly put it, but she still laughs every time hes on screen. this is also to both of you, what exactly does bush have to do with will forte? oh, i remember. absolutely nothing. this message board is one of the most ridiculous ones i have ever read, you both lost sight of the subject. and in reading your banter, i have too. will forte makes more money than me, and you two combined, so it makes no sense to continue arguing over it. heres an idea, instead of sitting online and pissing each other off, why not read a book? or go outside? you might be asking yourself, "why isnt this a-hole practicing what he preaches?" well, i was outside today. so there. i just wached a skit by will forte and thought i saw him in beerfest. and when i saw your comment "canofvegetables", i had to see what you could possibly mean. well, my rant is up. im out of things to say, but before you post replies to this comment, understand that since i have made my point, i will NEVER read this board again, im moving on. as both of you shouldve done a long time ago. so know that i wont be reading any useless comments you have about me, just to make sure that if you do comment, you are wasting only your own time. and to stop any hate, i am voicing an opinion that requires no feedback, just as you two have done. i apologize if feelings are hurt, but its just what i do. by the way, i saw mcgruber the movie and i have never EVER laughed so hard at a movie. in the theater, there was a large number of senior citizens there, none of them left until the movie was over, so i think you are fairly alone on the hate, "can". oh, and i really dont see how you can like ben stiller over will forte. that guy only made me laugh in zoolander. yeah, i said it. zoolander. and "can", if you want your opinion heard by those who share it, make your own anti-forte website, leave these fans with "poor taste" as you put it, alone. goodbye horses.
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DesmondRules — 15 years ago(May 19, 2010 09:02 AM)
These are NOT fan boards. These are not sacred cows. These are boards where people bring their opinions. They can be polite - which is the best possible reaction/response - or they can be ignorant asses with each other but wouldn't the world be better if people just let each other express their opinions about the items on these boards without hurling insults?
I just don't see the point of throwing insults at each other. However, it's sometimes so tempting when one is hidden behind the wall of anonymity. I know I've slipped a couple of times.
I think if people treat these boards like conversations, there would be more respect and perspective. For instance, in a normal conversation someone might bring up someoda0ne they don't think is funny. As a part of normal conversation. That's why someone might come to a board to discuss a person or picture that that they don't like, or that they love. As I say, these boards are for conversation, they are not FAN boards.
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rockmail — 17 years ago(November 01, 2008 09:30 PM)
Except that IMDB is a public discussion board, NOT a "fan" board. If you want only positive discussion of someone's attributes, feel free to go to a fan website, or to start one yourself.
I use IMDB as a "Consumer Reports" type resource, to find out the good and bad attributes of entertainment.
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mhugo-1 — 15 years ago(December 11, 2010 12:18 PM)
Intellectual discourse is OK. i.e. I think it's perfectly healthy to say it when you think something or someone is not funny, etc. To not speak up isn't a very free expression of your life, is it?
Anyway, in the c5b4ase of Wil Forte, I too think he's not funny. In fact, I'm watching MacGruber right now, and I was wondering if I was seriously missing 'The Joke', so I decided to see what the rest of the internet community had to say. It turns out my instinct was right this guy's a joke, and this movie really is a waste of my time. I'm not really missing anything, because there's nothing to miss in this sophomoric miasma of predictable plots, lines, and horrible acting. It's like watching a Jr. High play, written by taking every other paragraph from a stack of fanfic it feels like an amateurish ripoff, and not funny like the first Austin Powers. (But a lot like the second 2 which were just a parody of themselves).
PS. Love K. Wiig, but hate her in this movie. Tempted to stop watching now so I won't begin to hate her. I might need to watch Whip It just to clear the pallet.
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Streetballa — 18 years ago(September 07, 2007 04:02 PM)
I completely agree. He's not funny. How this guy got a movie is beyond me.
If Will Sasso, who might be the best scetch comedian of all time can't get a movie but this guy can We need new people running hollywood. -
tedframe — 18 years ago(September 09, 2007 10:35 AM)
He is very funny and smart!!! Anyone can act crazy and overcommit in the name of comedy but he is not only a very funny commedienne he is an intelligent writer. The Brothers Soloman is a very funny smart movie, thanks to him!!