I don't really understand why some people think it was "career suicide"? Acting is about conveying emotions convincingly
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lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 04:55 AM)
but I would argue that more people know about this than you think. the internet has made it really easy and quite common for people to find out about an actor being gay. this is what happened with me: I wasn't even looking to find out anything about her. I didn't search for her online but, I saw something online about her coming out so I just saw it in a story online on the yahoo search engine. so, you don't even have to look to find out about an actor being gay, you are given this information whether you like it or not in a story on the yahoo search engine. you know how they put stories on yahoo. they are just there automatically.
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MrTridac — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 06:41 AM)
but I would argue that more people know about this than you think.
This might be true. Unfortunately we cannot know for sure except someone makes a representative study.
so, you don't even have to look to find out about an actor being gay, you are given this information
That's why I mentioned selection bias.
You and I, we have a natural tendency to roam about in many corners of the internet, potentially many movie or entertainment industry related sites.
While the average moviegoer doesn't get far beyond facebook, instagram, netflix and amazon. Although, facebook was probably swamped with "ELLEN PAGE OUT OF THE CLOSET !!!!!!1111oneoneone #pathetichashtag"
Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day
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MartenBroadcloak — 10 years ago(July 25, 2015 09:47 AM)
This is something that influences the casting choices for movies.
Is it, really? I mean there are not a lot of openly gay actors in Hollywood so it's hard to tell but it didn't seem to be a risk to have Ian McKellen in big-budget films like Lord of the Rings and Jim Parsons was the star of Dreamworks' Home.
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Smokey_T — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 05:52 PM)
Yea, Ian McKellen is always going for those sweet roles, the ones where he plays a desirable, sexually powerful, and most significantly a no-more-than middle aged man.
Oh, wait.
Yeah, I'm sure Morgan Freeman, Sidney Poitier and a slew of other near geriatrics could be openly gay and not have that limit their ability to play Dumbledore. It might impact their bank ability were they 20 something, and seeking a high mainstream profile.
Page was never going to tick the boxes for mainstream Hollywood regardless of her sexuality - bit parts, niche films, sure. And her being out shouldn't affect that at all. -
michaelallen000 — 10 years ago(September 30, 2015 01:56 AM)
I don't think it's going to hurt her career, she's going to be able to get the same type of rolls that she got before, unless she black balls herself talking negative against Hollywood.
With Neil Patrick Harris it has hurt his career, which is sad he's a great actor.
Wentworth Miller came out as gay, his career is doing better then it did before.
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MartenBroadcloak — 10 years ago(September 30, 2015 03:19 PM)
With Neil Patrick Harris it has hurt his career, which is sad he's a great actor.
I don't know if it helped his career but I don't think it hurt him either. If anything he seems to be a much more high-profile celebrity than he was before. Looking at his Wikipedia page it appeared that prior to 'How I Met Your Mother' after Doogie Howser ended the bulk of his stuff was tv movies and guest work whereas now he's doing quite well for himself. -
bakerstreetdozen — 10 years ago(September 30, 2015 06:06 PM)
Matt Bomer is also doing pretty well for himself. He came out while on
White Collar
, I believe, which ran for several series. He won a Golden Globe for
The Normal Heart
, is now appearing in
American Horror Story
, and has a few different film projects lined up. Oh, and he was in the
Magic Mike
films, but I hesitated to mention that because I thought the first one was frankly terrible (even if it did have a few good-looking guys).
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mike-a-patrick91 — 10 years ago(March 13, 2016 12:37 AM)
I certainly don't think that coming out as gay would ruin her career. I just read an article on her saying that coming out has allowed her to take on more creative roles.
One thing I will point out: look at her IMDb page pre-2014. She had the X-Men films, Inception and Juno to her name as well as smaller films like Hard Candy and Whip It. Since she came out there doesn't seem to be many films of note other than Freeheld. But I guess it's early days to see whether she won't get any more big films, and as mentioned above, maybe she isn't as interested in doing blockbusters. -
MrTridac — 10 years ago(March 14, 2016 04:38 AM)
as mentioned above, maybe she isn't as interested in doing blockbusters.
She said that many times in the past.
Apparently, it took a lot of convincing by the director to do the X-Men movies.
Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day
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Smokey_T — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 06:08 PM)
Makes sense.
Of course a teen heart throb goes out the window when they come out, except to young gay men or women.
Cliff's hidden in his closet for decades pretending he just likes masturbating to healthy hetero pornography. But then his fanbase has gone from being bankable teenage single buyers to antique Christmas album purchasers - I guess if he came out now his fans, what there are that haven't died already, would have strokes.
Adam Lambert had a bunch of hits about the time he came out, and I don't recall him putting anything out that jumped to the top 10 since he did. Just like scripts for films, you have to get good songs bought for you, arranged for you etc by people whose major if not only concern is $$$$$.
Give that expensive song, studio time, etc to someone that has sex appeal to maximum 5-10% of the population, or someone that has sex appeal to a maximum 50% I guess explains why unless you are Elton John, or very talented, it does matter.
I saw some rent boy of Eltons doing a terrible duet with him on Grahame Norton about a year ago. So sometimes coming out helps your career, if you take it from Big E5b4l. -
samup7775 — 9 years ago(June 01, 2016 01:07 AM)
It's a power move even your careers in the pooper, just draws attention to you when nobody cares, she's his new role in some super hero flick where she's called the "thor-head" or something, like the old villain rhino in superman, she can bash through anything with her forehead..I dunnoanyways Hollywood's full of pedophiles, homos, lefty loons detached from any kind of reality so I treat them like my pet monkeyJust shut up and entertain me monkey!!