Isn't this some kind of weird capitalist cult?
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NCurran1987 — 20 years ago(December 30, 2005 08:05 PM)
I like his stuff. I mean im not his biggest fan or anything he's a bit chessy and repetitive but the man makes a lot of good points. He has repackaged a lot of stuff thats been there since biblical times like everyone else has yes. But he does it in a way that really inspires you. You can say be strong and happy in a second. But the way he does it you actually believe it applies to you. Not some other person he's talking to elsewhere but you. I took a big leap of faith using his stuff. He was very inspirational in the way he presented the information the way others arent. He really made me wanna get up of my arse and do something with my life. Sure theres better principles elsewhere sure it could be cheaper elsewhere sure its repackaged but hey you know what no one does it as good as tony does. He makes you feel like you can do it while others just tell you you can (not that others cant make you FEEL it to but tonys just better at it if not a little (well, very) chessy)
Btw I cant wait for new year to start my life up again and start exercising body and mind in a massive way once more. (well first time for the mind as some people have probably guessed but its the second big one for the body. Gonna start running 8 miles a day baby)
Frank To Harmonica: Keep your loving brother Happy
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photobackflip — 20 years ago(January 03, 2006 12:47 AM)
to all those who say bad things about tony, in the end he has more money than you or me, from saying all these so-called stupid things.
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i dont see your name on imdb?
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when was the last time you were on tv?
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what year did you make your first million?
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you might think he's talking aload of beep
but wouldn't you for the money he gets.
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NCurran1987 — 20 years ago(January 03, 2006 04:54 PM)
And of course if it didnt work people wouldnt buy his stuff twice and personal power wouldnt have sold something like 50 million copies
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RalphFilthy — 19 years ago(October 13, 2006 07:52 PM)
And of course if it didnt work people wouldnt buy his stuff twice and personal power wouldnt have sold something like 50 million copies
The idiocy of the general public should never be underestimated. As an example, in
my lifetime the American public have voted in as President Ronnie Regan, George
Bush, and George W Bush (twice!)
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lilsnapdragon — 19 years ago(November 06, 2006 08:48 PM)
I don't think that's a very good rationale. Just because something sells well doesn't mean it works. Products like Slim Fast, Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers have been selling very well for a very long time, but the US still has the highest percentage of obese people in the world. If those products really, truly worked, everyone would be thin.
Also, the sales of his products, or any products that promise drastic life changes, are not an indication of their effectiveness. Someone may buy his books, read them, get motivated and have the best of intentions to change their life, and then a month later, they're right back where they were with their bad habits while those books sit on a shelf collecting dust. Whether the person puts them to work or not is irrelevant to Tony Robbins, Slim Fast, etc. They've already made their money.
People are always looking for the quick fix. They want to take a pill or drink a shake or read a book or watch a video and immediately afterward be thin, beautiful and rich. The only way any of those things come aboutother than being born with good genes and/or a trust fundis through hard work and dedication. Unfortunately, most of us are too lazy to do what it takes.
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britishfella — 19 years ago(January 10, 2007 05:34 AM)
Quite right, Lilsnapdragon.
There is always one monstrous little disclaimer with Robbins and any other self-help guru: that ultimately it is down to YOU to take action.
No kiddin'!
It is the cheapest get-out clause in existence. You can spend $1000 on a Robbins seminar and then, thre111ce months later, complain you haven't lost any of the weight you had hoped for. Of course, the Robbins fanatics will point out that is down to your own lack of actionand that is true. But how is that any different from me telling you to "eat less and exercise more" and you not following through? Simple answer is $1000and for that price (and that hype) you'd expect compelling results.
Robbins feeds people what they need a big, chunky placebo. An easy way to bury their heads in the sand. The belief that there problems are nailed or will be nailed, simply because they have allowed Tony into their lives.
There is some merit in the self-improvement industry; an awareness of goals, planning and the virtues of traits such as persistence. But you can find all that out for free by downloading Napoleon Hill's book (a lot of which is junk, a lot of which is valuable). I'm not a big fan of NLP, but I think Bandler got it right when he suggested that Robbins "would have a bookshelf with 99 books on marketing, and one book on NLP". -
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coye — 20 years ago(January 04, 2006 11:26 PM)
To Photobackflip, its sad when someone measures a great man by his wealth, especially when this wealth is made from milking desperate people.
As for your questions:
i dont see your name on imdb? I, like others, are on IMDB but it would be foolish to use our actual names as it would make it difficult to slander individuals such as yourself.
when was the last time you were on tv? A couple of months ago, but big deal! TV isnt that important, and its the industry Im in.
what year did you make your first million? I havent but its not a goal (Doesnt Tony speak about true success not being about money???).
you might think he's talking aload of beep
but wouldn't you for the money he gets.
You are really not selling your point very well now you're saying people should do whatever they can to make a buck. No, I would not sell easy answers to deperate people to make a living.
i think your all jelous.
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anonymouse007 — 20 years ago(January 09, 2006 11:17 PM)
You make a lot of generalizations (ALL his wealth generated from desperate people?), and you seem to be going out of your way to attack TR. Seems like you have some other agenda - it's like TR offended you in some cruel way - lol.
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nikzane — 20 years ago(February 20, 2006 02:48 AM)
For aeons (that's a long time), humans have sought guidance from all manner of entities; flesh, spirit, animal, mineral vegetable. Millions of people world-wide today do so by worshipping deities of all shapes and sizes, regardless of any real proof of any existence of these god-figures - because they need guidance, for whatever reason. And we all accept this as normal. In fact many, if not most cultures develop and run whole societies based on the beliefs and ideals of these largely fictional beings.
So given that, what's so strange about a few thousand people seeking guidance from a real-life, mortal human-man, whose existence can be proved?
The point here is not to intrinsically compare Anthony Robbins to God, Jesus, Bhudda, or anyone else, but to illustrate how humans inherently seek and desire the guidance of others in times of need, no matter how bizarre or foreign the source of that guidance may be, and have done so for a very, very long time.
More importantly however, and more to the point, who really cares where one finds guidance? If it works, more power to you. If it's not for you, move on and find something that does work.
I'm not religious, but I'm happy for people who find peace in God. Anthony Robbins seems like a decent fellow, with a lot of good things to say. For those that bene5b4fit from it, good for you! Good advice is still good advice no matter how many times it has been said, or by whom.
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gd5150 — 20 years ago(February 27, 2006 02:35 PM)
Theres nothing scary about what TR teaches. He doesn't force anyone to do anything they dont want to do. There is nothing religious in his teachings as he spefically states people are free to worship who they want or not at all. But he does acknowlege the power faith can have in someones life. He simply gives people tools to help identify their goals, and help them achieve them. These tools can be used in any aspect of life from career, to finances, to losing weight, to going to school. They can work for anything.
Whats wrong with that?
He has adviced doezens of world leaders, professional athletes, the top business people in the world. I'm sure these people know a bit more about what it takes to succeed, than the ignoramouses on this board that saw part of his infomercial between playing video games and watching the Dailey show. -
m_vion18-1 — 20 years ago(March 25, 2006 11:22 PM)
Geez, get off it.
I have listened to a couple of his Cds, and it IS an absolute joke!
TR sure made a lot of money telling "jokes." In fact, he'll be happy to hear that his CDs are both useful and funny.
His material might be too complicated for you, but here's a simple rule to remember:- if something is useful to you, use it
- if something is useless to you, forget it
In this case, TR's materials are useless to you, so why not walk away and stop wasting your time on him? Of course, first you should finish letting out your steam whine and bash to your heart's content. Don't get too jealous of his success, fame, money, let it all out. You need to live with the fact that he is better than you.
But WAIT, here's an idea for you: if TR's "jokes" can fool so many people and make him so much money, fame, and fans, why don't you find and publish a real advice? I'm serious, one "real" advice should be able to beat the "absolute jokes" that have somehow earned TR millions, right? Good luck and tell us how it goes
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tommyuk — 19 years ago(April 19, 2006 08:09 PM)
Well there is nothing wrong with what he is saying.It's just a motivational tool but motivation comes from inside.Even if you buy his stuff (and it's not cheap) you still have find it inside yourself.I guess he could work for some people but I bet he doesn't work for everybody.
On the infomercial it shows how rich and succesfull everyone is through his programme but there are plenty of rich and successfull people who didn't use his tapes.
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DaveLounderMotionPictures — 14 years ago(June 07, 2011 10:20 PM)
Dear Caliass, LOVE IT!!! You hit the proverbial nail SQUARE on the head!!! Thanks for saying what DESPERATELY NEEDED to be said!!! Dave Lounder (btw, that's my real name, and I'm on IMDb, for real!)
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caliass — 13 years ago(March 03, 2013 09:55 PM)
Thank you mr. Dave Lounder!
I regret that I am turning into an old person by writng that missive, but there is a multitude of idiots out there. I wrote that after having a bad day at college. I went back after a bunch of dead end jobs, and that day I realized even though I did not have much of an education, these idiots can't spell, have no critical thinking skills, and think the world owes them a pass. I was in a very basic class and the utter stupidity was very well displayed. I was drifting off into la la land thinking that if I could just smack a few of them the world would be better off. Again Thank you!