As I've already written this long post (almost an essay) about Mia on the Crimson Peak board, I wanted to share it here
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Mia Wasikowska
Gothic_Maniac — 10 years ago(November 02, 2015 12:30 PM)
As I've already written this long post (almost an essay) about Mia on the Crimson Peak board, I wanted to share it here as well. I don't need to read any positive answers about her under MY thread, so just spare your opinion and go to another thread! Thank you.
I actually didn't want to write on any boards here, since there is only a small amount of people writing herebut I could not resist (look at all the poor criticism she got)
Especially because there are A FEW people here on this board who try to change the opinions of 100 people and make me believe that they don't have a beep life, because they are 24 hours on this board and you can see them in almost every thread where they underline their low opinion ever single time, as if they have done this beep movie. You know del Toro likes to hear different opinions and it amuses him, but those users? I mean just write your opinion 1-3 times, but on every thread??? They are surely going to open 20 other threads just to give the appearance that their opinion is shared by many others, because they are surely unemployed.
If you want to read sophisticated interpretations about the movie and not repetitive bulls** statements, then go back to the posts after the movie was newly released.
Back to the topic, the reason why Mia was cast in Crimson Peak was due to her role as Jane Eyre (she was a terrible Jane Eyre, it almsot made me hate my favorite novel), but to cast someone for a role (Edith) which is almost exactly the same? That does not include anything positive to the filmography for this person, except that it is of course easy for her and she can make easy money.
Before anyone is going to ask me: Did you watch h5b4er in that and that and that? Yes, I did. Poor me. I'm not a person who judges someone without knowing much about him or her, so I gave this pale girl 14 chances and watched her in 14 different roles. She is IN EVERY MOVIE always the same. The only thing that changes is her looks, but nothing else. Always the same low voice that NEVER gets louder, always the same gaze(permantently looking confused and pissed off)and when she laughs(thank god, she prefers to close her mouth)she looks like an old man.
In Crimson Peak she didn't have any chemistry with any actor, although Tom H. is a superb actor, they both couldn't deliver the romantic scenes, because their chemistry was statically like a brother-sister relationship. And their sex scene is a disaster. Playing a Victorian virgin, her expressions just showed boredom and not any feeling of passion, anxiety, excitement or pain while having her first sex.
I've come across comments of dense people about her that she must be a good actress, because Meryl Streep or Tom H. praised her, but guys, BE RATIONAL! Meryl Streep is a humanist, who works for about 40 years for diversity in Hollywood movie industry for women and SHE WOULD NEVER EVER say anything bad about a young girl who is new to the movie industry and who plays a feminist role (Jane Eyre) and everyone who knows Tom Hiddleston must be aware that he also never says anything bad to anyone. There was even a video of him where a1c84 little girl changes her voice to sound like a fairy and he praised her so much that you would think that she delivered an Oscar-worthy performance. So please people, don't be so narrow-minded and brighten your imagination and intelligence!
When you watch her in interviews or red-carpet videos, you actually think that she plays exactly herself in every movie, so is it right to call her an actress when she reflects herself in her roles? People call it "realism", but when she gets so much money for acting, what does she actually do for preparation and how is the end product of it? Almost every movie she is in doesn't do well in the box-office. Her first blockbuster(which had NOTHING to do with her, except the hatred it got afterwards) was Alice and the second one will be the sequel, I suppose.
I share the opinion of many others that she should always act in independent films, so that her small fan group is pleased, as well as the majority is pleased by not seeing her much in trailers and posters as we had to endure during the promotion of Crimson Peak.
I liked her statement about herself in the Charlie Rose interview along with Jessica C. and Tom H. She called herself a "low-brow", since she didn't study anything that has to do with drama, which is obvious from her lack versatility and in another interview again with them both she said that she got to work with all those directors, because other actresses were not available! LOL.. that sums up her whole career. -
ThisNiceDerangement — 10 years ago(November 06, 2015 01:33 AM)
That's a veeeery long rant but I agree with you. I think she's overrated as an actress. And she was an awful, awful Jane Eyre! Jane is one of my favourite book heroines: strong, compassionate, kind. Mia played her as basically angry all the time. And no chemistry with Fassbender (which I also didn't like) at all.
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ian-1355 — 10 years ago(November 06, 2015 02:48 AM)
You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree on both counts. Loved her in Jane Eyre and Crimson Peak but I don't see that she didn't have chemistry with both male leads but then if you don't think Fassbender was right for Rochester you are clearly seeing films in a very different way to me. She brings sensitivity to her roles and a quiet understated presence. You don't have to be in someone's face to show strength. If you watch her in Tracks or Stoker you will see what I mean.
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ThisNiceDerangement — 10 years ago(November 06, 2015 03:30 AM)
I admit I haven't seen her in much, only Jane Eyre and Alice. I didn't like her in both.
The major problem with Jane Eyre (2011) was the rushed script / lenght of the movie. Too short (even at two hours) for the amount of book material they used. Then Jane and Rochester's love comes out of nowhere.
I understand the sensitivity and quietness necessary to portray Jane, but I still don't think Mia was a good Jane.
However, what would be of the film and TV industry if everyone had the same taste for everything?
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Paper_Plate — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 08:58 AM)
I agree that she is overrated. I wish they wouldn't cast her in any more adaptations of books, she is ruining all of my favorite stories. People wait years for new adaptations to come out, only to see incredibly poor results.
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nightwishouge — 10 years ago(November 09, 2015 11:29 PM)
I love Mia! She is, in my opinion, wasted in period dramas. I think her talents are better suited to modern roles (The Kids Are All Right, The Double, Stoker). It is true that she plays angry/angsty a lot but I think that's a result of typecasting. She was very dynamic in her role on In Treatment. The character she played, Sophie, was hostile, but also by turns charming, depressed, adorable, and vulnerable. I would love to see her play a lighter character.
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jmtrc — 10 years ago(March 28, 2016 09:06 PM)
'Pretentious' is a vacuous criticism that says nothing about the artwork and everything about the critic. It's being dismissive without putting in any effort.
But Only Lovers Left Alive was hilarious - I guess the humour went right over your head. It was in part actually making
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jjparish — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 03:22 AM)
I liked her statement about herself in the Charlie Rose interview along with Jessica C. and Tom H.
She called herself a "low-brow", since she didn't study anything that has to do with drama, which is obvious from her lack versatility
and in another interview again with them both she said that
she got to work with all those directors, because other actresses were not available!
LOL.. that sums up her whole career.Amen brother. What astounds me is how she gets so much work when she is so dreadful an actress? It surely cant be all down to the unavailability of quality actors. I mean its obvious how average actresses like rumer willis or emma roberts get work. Just look at their last names. But how does a wasikowski get so MUCH work?
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Gothic_Maniac — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 09:16 AM)
Actually, it was not my intention5b4 to come back to this thread and answer to funny, yet self-absorbing comments, but
I still can't believe that my point on the minority who likes Mia W. has been proved, which means that those people are not able to read and accept different opinions and get aggressive: Do you consider yourself as her agent or the administrator of this board? Why are ALWAYS the same people replying and discussing things all over again here? Do you realize that it is effing creepy what you do?
What does my first sentence on this thread say, are you illiterate?
I don't need to read any positive answers about her under MY thread, so just spare your opinion and go to another thread! Thank you.
I could easily write on your other threads about MY OPINION about her which is not based on a personal dislike, but on a long study of her movies, interviews and her appearance in her private life that results in my perception of her being untalented, monotonous and bland. If you can't accept this thread, then I have to assure you that you will find my comments under every post of yours in future, as you do regularly to try changing the opinion of others. I'm not like you, as I don't terrorize other people's perceptions, while staying on my thread. That's how mature people do.
And Joel I think the best answer you ever got is surely by Fake_Plastic_Love in this thread of yours:
http://www.imdb.com/board/11682180/board/thread/228106944?d=228106944#228106944
I think it is time that you begin a healthy life, without commenting or opening new threads on the internet, as twitter and facebook, because it IS creepy, believe me. If Mia had read the posts you are writing here, she would probably quit acting (maybe she should).
Another point I want to amplify is that people (on a psychological perspective) tend to feel closer to those who are similar to them, means in regard to Mia being introvert, incapable of understanding questions immediately and responding to them with depths, being antisocial etc.. what I've read a few times about her on youtube was: "She is just shy, I can totaly relate to that". This is actually not an objective perspective, as one could argue, whether this approach would appear similarly, if this person was not an introvert. Subjective perspectives, therefore, can't be taken seriously in regard to someone's talents.
To sum up, I can say that you and your, equally creepy followers, don't have to show up evertime someone wants to express an opinion, it is those very different opinions and perceptions that color the lifeless souls of people, and you are not her lawyer! If someone still writes under this thread, it will just show their lack of intelligence not being able to understand my firb68st statement about having the opportunity to write in under threads here to express their opinion, where I won't disturb them. However, if this goes on here, I will. For sure. -
LifeVsArt — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 10:05 AM)
I'm sure we agree on somethings Gothic_Maniac, but obviously not re the subject of this thread. I have no idea what you pursue anywhere else, but you probably vent your passions and interests (hopefully, you enjoy yourself). I never would say to anyone that they can't write their reply or comment under mine, or anyone else's, negative or positive - if I ever did, I was wrong. This thread, or any thread, is open to people agreeing or disagreeing - at least that's how I see it - it's the nature of Imdb. If I say something positive and glowing somewhere, people are free to come along and question what I say, or mock it, whether I like it or not. I also got a go1c84od laugh out of Fake_Plastic_Love's comment - a sense of humor is always appreciated. We may start threads, but we don't own them, and we can't control what people say.
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SwingBatta — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 10:31 AM)
Amen brother. What astounds me is how she gets so much work when she is so dreadful an actress?
You went out of your way to post this spiel on two different threads.
I don't care if you're not a fan yet it sounds like you've got some issues.
You four-eyed psycho.
