As I've already written this long post (almost an essay) about Mia on the Crimson Peak board, I wanted to share it here
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ThisNiceDerangement — 10 years ago(November 06, 2015 01:33 AM)
That's a veeeery long rant but I agree with you. I think she's overrated as an actress. And she was an awful, awful Jane Eyre! Jane is one of my favourite book heroines: strong, compassionate, kind. Mia played her as basically angry all the time. And no chemistry with Fassbender (which I also didn't like) at all.
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ian-1355 — 10 years ago(November 06, 2015 02:48 AM)
You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree on both counts. Loved her in Jane Eyre and Crimson Peak but I don't see that she didn't have chemistry with both male leads but then if you don't think Fassbender was right for Rochester you are clearly seeing films in a very different way to me. She brings sensitivity to her roles and a quiet understated presence. You don't have to be in someone's face to show strength. If you watch her in Tracks or Stoker you will see what I mean.
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ThisNiceDerangement — 10 years ago(November 06, 2015 03:30 AM)
I admit I haven't seen her in much, only Jane Eyre and Alice. I didn't like her in both.
The major problem with Jane Eyre (2011) was the rushed script / lenght of the movie. Too short (even at two hours) for the amount of book material they used. Then Jane and Rochester's love comes out of nowhere.
I understand the sensitivity and quietness necessary to portray Jane, but I still don't think Mia was a good Jane.
However, what would be of the film and TV industry if everyone had the same taste for everything?
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Paper_Plate — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 08:58 AM)
I agree that she is overrated. I wish they wouldn't cast her in any more adaptations of books, she is ruining all of my favorite stories. People wait years for new adaptations to come out, only to see incredibly poor results.
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nightwishouge — 10 years ago(November 09, 2015 11:29 PM)
I love Mia! She is, in my opinion, wasted in period dramas. I think her talents are better suited to modern roles (The Kids Are All Right, The Double, Stoker). It is true that she plays angry/angsty a lot but I think that's a result of typecasting. She was very dynamic in her role on In Treatment. The character she played, Sophie, was hostile, but also by turns charming, depressed, adorable, and vulnerable. I would love to see her play a lighter character.
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jmtrc — 10 years ago(March 28, 2016 09:06 PM)
'Pretentious' is a vacuous criticism that says nothing about the artwork and everything about the critic. It's being dismissive without putting in any effort.
But Only Lovers Left Alive was hilarious - I guess the humour went right over your head. It was in part actually making
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jjparish — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 03:22 AM)
I liked her statement about herself in the Charlie Rose interview along with Jessica C. and Tom H.
She called herself a "low-brow", since she didn't study anything that has to do with drama, which is obvious from her lack versatility
and in another interview again with them both she said that
she got to work with all those directors, because other actresses were not available!
LOL.. that sums up her whole career.Amen brother. What astounds me is how she gets so much work when she is so dreadful an actress? It surely cant be all down to the unavailability of quality actors. I mean its obvious how average actresses like rumer willis or emma roberts get work. Just look at their last names. But how does a wasikowski get so MUCH work?
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Gothic_Maniac — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 09:16 AM)
Actually, it was not my intention5b4 to come back to this thread and answer to funny, yet self-absorbing comments, but
I still can't believe that my point on the minority who likes Mia W. has been proved, which means that those people are not able to read and accept different opinions and get aggressive: Do you consider yourself as her agent or the administrator of this board? Why are ALWAYS the same people replying and discussing things all over again here? Do you realize that it is effing creepy what you do?
What does my first sentence on this thread say, are you illiterate?
I don't need to read any positive answers about her under MY thread, so just spare your opinion and go to another thread! Thank you.
I could easily write on your other threads about MY OPINION about her which is not based on a personal dislike, but on a long study of her movies, interviews and her appearance in her private life that results in my perception of her being untalented, monotonous and bland. If you can't accept this thread, then I have to assure you that you will find my comments under every post of yours in future, as you do regularly to try changing the opinion of others. I'm not like you, as I don't terrorize other people's perceptions, while staying on my thread. That's how mature people do.
And Joel I think the best answer you ever got is surely by Fake_Plastic_Love in this thread of yours:
http://www.imdb.com/board/11682180/board/thread/228106944?d=228106944#228106944
I think it is time that you begin a healthy life, without commenting or opening new threads on the internet, as twitter and facebook, because it IS creepy, believe me. If Mia had read the posts you are writing here, she would probably quit acting (maybe she should).
Another point I want to amplify is that people (on a psychological perspective) tend to feel closer to those who are similar to them, means in regard to Mia being introvert, incapable of understanding questions immediately and responding to them with depths, being antisocial etc.. what I've read a few times about her on youtube was: "She is just shy, I can totaly relate to that". This is actually not an objective perspective, as one could argue, whether this approach would appear similarly, if this person was not an introvert. Subjective perspectives, therefore, can't be taken seriously in regard to someone's talents.
To sum up, I can say that you and your, equally creepy followers, don't have to show up evertime someone wants to express an opinion, it is those very different opinions and perceptions that color the lifeless souls of people, and you are not her lawyer! If someone still writes under this thread, it will just show their lack of intelligence not being able to understand my firb68st statement about having the opportunity to write in under threads here to express their opinion, where I won't disturb them. However, if this goes on here, I will. For sure. -
LifeVsArt — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 10:05 AM)
I'm sure we agree on somethings Gothic_Maniac, but obviously not re the subject of this thread. I have no idea what you pursue anywhere else, but you probably vent your passions and interests (hopefully, you enjoy yourself). I never would say to anyone that they can't write their reply or comment under mine, or anyone else's, negative or positive - if I ever did, I was wrong. This thread, or any thread, is open to people agreeing or disagreeing - at least that's how I see it - it's the nature of Imdb. If I say something positive and glowing somewhere, people are free to come along and question what I say, or mock it, whether I like it or not. I also got a go1c84od laugh out of Fake_Plastic_Love's comment - a sense of humor is always appreciated. We may start threads, but we don't own them, and we can't control what people say.
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SwingBatta — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 10:31 AM)
Amen brother. What astounds me is how she gets so much work when she is so dreadful an actress?
You went out of your way to post this spiel on two different threads.
I don't care if you're not a fan yet it sounds like you've got some issues.
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Gothic_Maniac — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 12:17 PM)
I never would say to anyone that they can't write their reply or comment under mine, or anyone else's, negative or positive - if I ever did, I was wrong.
You already did today in regard to jjparish by trying to attack him on the Crimson Peak board, so where is here the freedom of speech? As you are already familiar with, ImdB is a movie board, where people discuss acting skills, movies and their depths, so why do you always take the position of being Mia's lawyer, when people are expressing their opinions considering her "acting"?
Another behavior I totally think of immature is the immediate reaction to negative sensations that it is led by jealousy or worse, having another actor/actress in mind that could be seen as a competitor for her. This is exactly the moment when a discussion, or rather an argument loses its reliability and validity, because the person who discusses is not able anymore to find any arguments against the thesis of the other, so reproaches the other person with jealousy or sth similar. It is at first important to realize that there can be more reasons for someone's opinion, as I try to underline, not to be pigeonholed!
Apart from that, as I've already stated in my first post here, I really think that you should be aware for the future that not every praise or compliment is really meant, because you have to contemplate, whether this particular person normally compliments everyone, or is it an exception? As much as there are people out there who like to compliment to give the impression of being polite and nice, like "Hey, you look ravishing today" (That's a sentence by Hiddleston who loves to use it when he runs across sb), there are also people, like co-stars who do the same by praising acting skills or appearances to come out as a gentle person, especially in that moment when the other one, who is being complimented does usually get low criticism or no attention at all. I think I can give you that example: You are bad at math at school, but you are not a troublemaker. You are a calm lad who doesn't do naughty things, so your math teacher wants you to improve and become better, as he/she is also aware of you being an introvert and not having much friends. It is a kind of compassionate reaction. He/she often comes to you and praises very little correctly calculation methods. In this connection, the wrong assumption of that person would be to feel superior to the other ones in class who are all actually better in math and that actually, he isn't able to understand the intention of the special care by the teacher. That's how I consider the situation with Mia.
As I can recall from your youtube account, your age must be 23,so you are in a young, but productive age that shouldn't be conducted by a narrow-minded perception of human thoughts and speeches, as there could always be a variety of other things meant by assertions.
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LifeVsArt — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 12:55 PM)
First of all. Gothic_Maniac, I'm not 23 - far from it (LOL). Since you seem to be investigating me personally (something I avoid doing with others) you might want to know (I probably shouldn't go there, but I will) - I have two sons that share accounts with me, both in their 20's. If I'm guilty of immaturity, as you say, it can't be blamed on my chronological years. You're point about me sounding like an attorney may have some validity - it's something my wife has leveled at me when we're arguing a point, although we seldom are disrespectful of each other (personal again), but we've achieved that over a long marriage. As opposed to being an actual attorney, however, I'm a musician and lover of the arts. You seem to also have a passion for Mia, but of a negative nature. I would say that Mia has become a real muse for me, a source of inspiration, through her talent, her integrity, and the quality of her films - I feel she's unique and embodies truth and beauty, which are what I find most inspirational in life, and also in art.
