They could have defeated the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and they could have been effective for a while but then wha
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BertramWilberforceWooster — 11 years ago(April 20, 2014 04:46 PM)
Take the US out of the equation all together, and Germany still loses. They were fighting a two front war, getting pounded by Russia. It may have taken longer without the US, but certainly they would still have lost.
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bing-57 — 12 years ago(December 22, 2013 02:16 PM)
They'd run out of jet fuel, they'd have no high-tech, sophisticated parts for the Nimitz and for all of the aircraft so they couldn't have been at fighting mode for very long.
For a little while. But, recall that the Nimitz has modern people and modern textbooks on it. It wouldn't take the US very long to back engineer the parts of the ship and jets.
We saw that Owens was able to use his knowledge of the future to become a billionaire.
Unfortunately, this is time travel. So, anything that the US would do in response to the Nimitz entering the war would already have happened in the Nimitz' history. Since the history we were shown did NOT include the Nimitz being in the war, she wasn't.
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tea-rex — 11 years ago(May 12, 2014 05:17 PM)
It's one thing to read in a textbook that XYZ part was made using the ABC procedure, or even having explained how the ABC procedure works, if you can't reproduce it because the tools to do so haven't been developed yet.
It would take years just to produce the means to make modern steel.
And even though you might be able to reproduce the procedures, the specifics are closely held company secrets.
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bing-57 — 11 years ago(May 12, 2014 09:56 PM)
It's one thing to read in a textbook that XYZ part was made using the ABC procedure, or even having explained how the ABC procedure works, if you can't reproduce it because the tools to do so haven't been developed yet.
Necessity is the mother of invention. If you have a jet sitting on the runway and you need to invent jet fuel for it, you'd be darn surprised how fast you can invent some and the tools needed.
Generally, scientists don't invent things until they are needed.
It would take years just to produce the means to make modern steel.
Yes. But, we would do it because we know that it is possible.
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Hanz-Willhelm — 12 years ago(March 17, 2014 10:09 AM)
I wonder how long the Nimitz would act independently, doing whatever Yelland ordered verses reporting to the U.S. government at that time and then taking directives from President Roosevelt and the current Naval leaders? Would they have stayed hidden, doing what they thought best or would they have sailed to Pearl or the U.S. West Coast and reported their existence?
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Hanz-Willhelm — 12 years ago(March 17, 2014 01:04 PM)
I would assume that the complete truth would be the best approach. The truth that they existed formerly in 1979-80 and through some unknown phenomenon ended up there. They would have all the physical evidence on hand that the leaders in 1941 couldn't deny. The knowledge they could supply of historical events that were set to transpire for the next 4 years would be invaluable.
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mhansen-25806 — 9 years ago(May 23, 2016 12:35 PM)
Can you imagine Nimitz being spotted by search planes from Enterprise (CV-6) which was on the area. Let's see Captain Yelland explain his presence to Admiral Halsey who was aboard "Big E."
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CGSailor — 9 years ago(May 23, 2016 09:17 PM)
Enterprise was no where near the area that Nimitz was in.
Nimitz was North of the Hawaiian chain, along the approach route of the Japanese fleet.
Enterprise was to the Southwest, returning from Wake.
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mhansen-25806 — 9 years ago(June 26, 2016 07:41 AM)
I thought Nimitz was to the west or southwest of Pearl since Commander Owens told Captain Yelland the Japanese were,
"off the scope but an educated guess would be around about here. They'd have to be here up around the Northwest sector."
See 44:50 into the movie. Captain Yelland then sent the E-2 there to search.
But, maybe not.
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CGSailor — 9 years ago(June 26, 2016 01:12 PM)
Owens position information was where the Japanese were in relation to Nimitz, not Hawaii. The Japanese aporoached Hawaii from the north.
The Japanese being Northwest of Nimitz means that Nimitz is somewhere East and north of Hawaii.
Enterprise was to the Southwest of Hawaii
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CGSailor — 9 years ago(July 10, 2016 11:06 AM)
Oh you finally agree that an Ionospheric research facility using high frequency radio transmissions into the upper atmosphere has nothing to do with sonar and hurting sea mammals.
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kurt-2000 — 9 years ago(July 10, 2016 10:00 PM)
You posted your comment on the wrong thread, but I'll assume that was intentional since you're a comedian sailor.
And againI don't agree with your characterization of the technology in question since critics point out that underwater technology was also developed under this program, but obviously we'll never agree on that.
Again accounts of ship location based on reported directs in history is a subject we can agree on.