Wow this was scripted before 9/11
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mfb603 — 16 years ago(January 28, 2010 02:24 PM)
You aren't seriously blaming the terrorist attack of 9/11 on the United States government?? How dare you. That is an insult to me as an American and the 3,000 people who died in the attack and their families. It is people like you who are the problem is the country. Your political correctness is dangerous and it threatens all of us because you can't see who the real enemy isIslmaic radicals. I wish you hated them as much as you hate George W. Bush.
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Captain_Augustus_McCrae — 16 years ago(March 28, 2010 09:56 AM)
mfb603,
Thank you,sir, for setting the record straight. The depth of stupidity to be found in some gullible, wrong-headed "conspiracy theorists" defies belief. No need to try and apply reason or facts in a discussion like this, though. The Loony Left has let their hatred derange them. Leave them to huddle in their government-sponsored housing, murmuring their feverish anti-Bush litanies. The truth is not in them. -
Master_X_3_1_1 — 15 years ago(May 14, 2010 08:55 PM)
ahope-3,
Why don't you stop your mutual masturbation with mfb603 for long enough to look up some real facts about these incidents as opposed to your spoon fed CNN BS, otherwise leave the discussions here for grownups. M'kay?
"No man is just a number" -
jerrysizzler-1 — 10 years ago(August 06, 2015 08:51 PM)
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (3 parts):
What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like:
9/11 Experiments: Newton vs. NIST:
9/11 Theories: Expert vs. Expert:
9/11: Explosive Evidence Experts Speak Out (Full):
9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate:
9-11 in the Academic Community:
9/11: NIST engineer John Gross denies WTC molten steel (extended):
Cutter Charges in the North Tower of the World Trade Center:
David Chandler Race With Gravity:
Denying The Obvious - NIST, Baant and the 9/11 Debunkers:
Improbable Collapse:
Jonathan Cole: Eutectic steel study building 7 WTC 9/11/01:
The Missing Jolt: A Simple Refutation of the NIST-Bazant Collapse Hypothesis:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/TheMissingJolt7.pdf
David Chandler Destruction of the World Trade Center North Tower and Fundamental Physics:
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/ChandlerDownwardAccelerationOfWTC1.pdf
Freefall and Building 7 on 9/11:
http://www1.ae911truth.org/news-section/41-articles/872-freefall-and-building-7-on-911-by-david-chandler.html
25 Points of Specific Concern in the NIST WTC Reports:A White Paper on NIST's
Omissions, Distortions, and Fraud:
http://www.ae911truth.org/images/articles/2014/11/twenty-five-points-10-19-14-3.pdf
FEMA Appendix
http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf
http://911speakout.org/?page_id=8
http://www.ae911truth.org/
It's easier to deceive the masses than to convince them that they've been deceived.
Truth is treason in the empire of lies. -
Cletus-Vanne-Damme — 15 years ago(July 23, 2010 02:01 AM)
Seriously, do some research on this stuff. I'm not saying things happened one way or the other, but evidence shows that we could have very well had something to do with the attack. It's not a republican thing, it's not a democrat thing.
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MSellersQuantum — 15 years ago(September 11, 2010 01:40 AM)
just watched the movie and nearly s### myself when I heard that line. In fact I came on here to see if anyone noticed. There are several movies I've heard, Sword Fish included that have seemed to predict 9/11 this one was down to the casualties. The blame it on the Muslims line was most telling, good work, anyone else?
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bangersuper — 15 years ago(October 03, 2010 12:29 AM)
STOP!! The U.S. Government did not see a beneficial or profitable excuse to collapse the twin towers and kill 5,000 Americans.
Almost all religions have good intentions but have misguided extremists who grab the headlines and unfortunately ruin their message. The same is true for different races. The media we watch distorts statistics to focus on the very small negative of an overall positive group. Just realize:
-Muslims are rarely terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim
-Blacks and Hispanics are rarely gang members, but most gang members are black or Hispanic
-Mormons are rarely polygamists, but most polygamists claim Mormonism
-Whites are rarely pedophiles, but most pedophiles are white
-Very few men are rapists, yet most rapists are men
These facts would seem reversed if you watch the Today Show, MsNBC or CNN.
It's because the media wants to show the rare, dark and controversial side of every demographic; otherwise, showing the positive traits that most of the demographic groups stand for would not be entertaining news.
Finally, 9/11 was a religious inspired attack by extremists that call themselves Muslim. But it was by a group that is uneducated, misinformed, desperate and doesn't understand their own religions core beliefs. Like most extremists that stray from a decent groups core beliefs.
STOP this stupid debate!!
As for the OP. It is ironic the script describes the American Government framing Muslims committing mass murder. Just like the stupid conspiracy theorists did for 9/11. Why don't we call Tom Clancy a terrorist because he wrote a book about terrorists crashing a plane into the White House before 9/11? Hollywood and Authors make up stories based on possibilities. If the stories they invent ring true years later it's not because they helped planned the attack. It's because they see opportunities that make stories. BTW, if you believe Nostradamus is a fortune teller you are an idiot!!!
{Lobbyists run the country and Howard rules} -
sljones44 — 15 years ago(October 15, 2010 06:31 AM)
What conspiracy theory? - Understand the players;
- George W. Bush eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot
- Dick Cheney former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several "war games"; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities
- Donald Rumsfeld former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said "when that missile hit the Pentagon"
- Paul Wolfowitz Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal
- Richard Perle former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member;allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan's ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed "Prince of Darkness"
- Douglas Feith effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; former PNAC member
- Dov Zakheim Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9-10-01; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; reputed 9-11 mastermind
- George Tenet director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the "Medal of Freedom" by Bush for his fine work on 9-11
- Robert Mueller FBI director on 9-11; under his "leadership" FBI field agents' warnings of an imminent attack were stifled
- Thomas Pickard took over the job of FBI director from Louis Freeh in August 2001; held this position only for a few weeks before Richard Mueller became director; former Terror Task Force chief; John O'Neill complained about sabotage by Pickard
- Dale Watson former Deputy Chief of the CIA at the Counter-Terrorist Center; appointed Inspector Deputy Assistant Director of the National Security Division (NSD), FBI Headquarters, Washington, DC in July 1998; appointed FBI Headquarters Assistant on December 6, 1999 by the Attorney General; ignored at least four different FBI agents' warnings including an "urgent cable" from the CIA on August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi
- Dave Frasca FBI Radical Fundamentalists Unit Chief; personally scuttled the work of Kenneth Williams in July 2001 and Coleen Rowley in August 2001, the Arizona and Minnesota FBI agents who were actively investigating "terrorist" patsies in CIA-operated flight schools
- Marion "Spike" Bowman FBI agent who thwarted FBI investigations into both Zacarias Moussaoui and the anthrax attacks on Congress.
- John Ashcroft Attorney General on 9-11; protected "terrorist" patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001.
- Michael Chertoff Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security.
- Michael Mukasey Federal judge in New York; presided over 1993 WTC bombing case; active in 9-11 cases, including Larry Silverstein's insurance claims; oversaw the detained material witnesses of 9-11, including five Israeli Mossad agents apprehended by FBI; recently appointed by Bush to be the next Attorney General.
- Ted Olson Solicitor General of the United States on 9-11; alleges that his wife, Barbara, phoned him from AA Flight 77 to report that it was highjacked by men with knives and box cutters; Flight 77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon though there was no wreckage of a 757 at the site, no bodies, no luggage, and the hole in the side of the Pentagon was much too small to accommodate a 757 (Barbara is not likely alive, but she was not killed at the Pentagon event)
- Colin Powell Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre.
- Condi Rice National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath.
- Tommy Thompson Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary; hired Jerome Hauer, former Office of Emergency Center, on 9-10-01
- Jerome Hauer managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management on 9-11; put John O'Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings; director of Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management from 1996 to 2000
- Porter Goss former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after "hookergate" - later, D.C. Madam Deborah Pelfrey "suicided" in 2007.
- Bob Graham former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004
- Marc Grossman Under Secretary for
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sljones44 — 15 years ago(October 15, 2010 06:37 AM)
- Frank Carlucci former Secretary of War; affiliated with PNAC; served as chairman of the Carlyle Group (1992-2003); on BoD of BDM International.
- William Kristol PNAC co-founder; adherent of Leo Strauss; editor of The Weekly Standard; strong advocate of the Iraq war.
- William Perry former Secretary of War; associated with the Rothschild's banking empire through Global Technology, a Rothschild affiliate.
- James Woolsey former CIA director; PNAC member; claims "incompetence" was reason for 9-11.
- Newt Gingrich former Speaker of the House; PNAC member; reputed to be a member of the CFR; served on the Pentagon's War Policy Board.
- Henry Kissinger long criminal history; wanted for war crimes in several countries; sat on War Policy Board under Perle; chosen to lead 9-11 Cover-Up Omission Commission.
- George H.W. Bush Skull and Bones; CIA operative former head of CIA; son (Neil) was friend of Hinkley, who shot Reagan when Bush was VP; war profiteer.
- Tony Blair British Prime Minister on 9-11; ally and partner in crime of George Bush; London 7-7 bombings were also "false flag" operation.
- Pauline Neville-Jones International Governor of BBC on 9-11; Chairman of UK Joint Intelligence Committee (1991-1994); Chairman of QinetiQ Group, a war technology company with government customers in UK and USA; Chairman of Information Assurance Advisory Council (IAAC).
- Mahmoud Ahmad head of Pakistan's ISI; had Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh wire $100,000 to lead 9-11 "terrorist" patsy Mohammad Atta.
- Benjamin Netanyahu former Israeli Prime Minister; said 9-11 was "good" for US-Israeli relationship; in NYC on 9-11 and in London on 7-7 bombings.
- Ariel Sharon Israeli Prime Minister on 9-11; heavy Mossad involvement in 9-11 (200 Israeli intelligence agents rounded up after 9-11, five Mossad agents arrested filming and celebrating WTC collapses, employees of Mossad-operated company at WTC notified hours before plane hit)deceased 4-14-2006.
Did you know that from the 103 people named on the this list of suspected 9-11 criminal co-conspirators there are:
22 current or former members of George W. Bush's White House 21.4%
4 current or former members of Congress 3.9%
6 current or former FBI agents 5.8%
6 people currently or formerly with the CIA 5.8%
6 current or former officials of New York 5.8%
12 current or former high-ranking USG military commanders 11.7%
13 current or former USG officials (not included above) 12.6%
12 current or former members of PNAC 11.7%
16 consultants, lobbists, or members of a "think tank" (not including PNAC) 15.5%
12 engineers 11.7%
34 current or former corporate executives 33.0%
4 senior "statesmen" 3.9%
5 Bush familiars and close relatives 4.9%
1 Canadian 1.0%
1 Pakistanian 1.0%
2 Arabs 1.9%
2 Brits 1.9%
4 known or suspected Mossad agents 3.9%
14 people who hold "dual citizenship" 13.6%
27 Israelis (including people with "dual citizenship" noted above) 26.2% - to which former CIA Analyst, Ray McGovern would attest to, specifically.
WAKE UP. Put the preconceptions down. Understand the above and how they benefited from this. The underwear bomber hoax didnt go down, and neither did the Swine Flu Hoax.
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bangersuper — 15 years ago(October 20, 2010 05:58 AM)
103 involved co-conspirators? And not one of them has been caught talking about it or come forward to admit it? No realistic solid evidence has ever been shown. Other than job titles and some group affiliations, everything you wrote are unfounded accusations and speculations with no proof.
Any criminal investigator will tell you that 9/10 times the most obvious suspect is the guilty one, and the simplest answer is usually the right one. They will also tell you that the more people involved with a criminal plan the more likely an informant will come forward to turn in the rest or at least mention it to someone else who turns them in. 103 people cannot keep their mouths shut for very long.
I am not satisfied with any of the "evidence" that has ever been pointed at because it's all speculative or flimsy at best. Plus it's never from a credible source; it's usually from some nut on a movie blog website. J/K.
{Lobbyists run the country and Howard rules} -
insidious420 — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 01:12 PM)
Remember, ignorant dummmies the world over once thought Earth was the center of the solar system, and that the world was flat, mainly because that was what the reigning (mainstream) political and religious powers were preaching at the time. Anyone with a differing opinion was ridiculed & persecuted for it. If you don't consider all opinions and take time to at least pursue possibilities outside of your own (mainstream) view, you are potentially risking being in the group of similar 21st century ignorant dummies who deny anything even remotely suspicious about the official stories of 9/11 & the 7/7 London bombings. Nothing is black and white, and nothing is rarely ever as simple as what someone tells you it is, ESPECIALLY if that information is meant to be disseminated amongst and believed by MILLIONS of people as unquestionable fact.
I'm sorry to sound insulting, but I can't help be amazingly frustrated at some people's sheer willful ignorance and ignoring easily-researchable facts simply because they are not in the mainstream media. It's depressing. Anger and vitriol are NOT helpful in any way toward convincing someone of an opinion, or of even CONSIDERING a differing viewpoint, but damn, being nice and trying to explain and kindly asking to research things certainly doesn't work either.
It's hard to change your opinion about something, especially when it has significant emotional and moral ramifications. It is literally fear-inducing to even entertain the thought that one cannot trust their government. It is a mental barrier that many people cannot cross, and therefore they block out anything that leads their thoughts down that path.
Amongst VERY MANY other things, personally I think it's odd that a group of cave-men terrorsists were smart enough to pull of the hugest, most complex, most successful terrorist attack in US history, yet they were not smart enough to plan and execute ONE SINGLE TERRORIST ATTACK SINCE THEN on US soil. Where are all the "sleeper cells" the US gvmt has been BOOGY BOOGY scaring everyone about over the years? Give me a break.
False-flag government operations are not a new thing. They've been around long before 9/11 & 7/7, long before the prior WTC attack(s), long before the Murrah building, long before the disturbingly coincidental line in this movie which started this thread, and certainly long before any single one of us in this thread has been alive.
But go on, continue to totally ignore anything and everything that should raise suspicion even in a retarded monkey's crippled brain:- Bush reading a story about a goat to children in a Florida school during the 9/11 attacks, Andy Card walking in to interrupt and tell Bush of the 2nd attack, and Bush calmly sitting there & continuing to read, with no change in expression on his face, as if this were expected, or as if he is a total moron. Research this a bit on your own (after all, that's what I did), there are probably still hundreds of articles and videos.
- Rumsfield stating "missile that hit the Pentagon" Research this a bit on your own (after all, that's what I did), there are probably still hundreds of articles and videos.
- Of the hundreds of surveillance cameras on the Pentagon grounds, and on the surrounding properties, only ONE extremely questionable short clip (literally 4 or 5 frames of video) was EVER released to the public of the Pentagon crash, due to "national security risks". National security risks??? From something that ALREADY HAPPENED? WHY EVEN RELEASE ONE VIDEO IF ALL THE OTHERS ARE "RISKS"???! Research this a bit on your own (after all, that's what I did), there are probably still hundreds of articles and videos.
- http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ Professional pilots stating the maneuvers exhibited on 9/11 (in particular the Pentagon plane) would have been impossible to pull off even by the most skilled pilots, but especially impossible by the supposed muslim terrorists in the supposed commercial air liners. I have the "luxury" of living within driving distance to the Pentagon, ride the train past it every day, and have driven down 395 past it for the specific purpose of verifying for myself, with my own eyes: how ridiculously impossible it would have been for ANYONE to fly a large commercial airliner at the angle and speed as what supposedly happened, missing 395 entirely, and slamming almost perfectly level into the Pentagon (as the video referenced in my above note shows) on 9/11.
- Steel-reinforced skyscrapers literally vaporizing into powder in near-free-fall. I watched a lot of Discovery channel and TLC when I was a kid, and was particularly fascinated with controlled demolitions and beep blowing up (what little boy isn't?), so it amazed me that flying planes into buildings has at least 100% of the efficiency of planned, controlled demolitions. Hell, if we can fly plans into buildings to vaporize them into dust, bring them down into their own footprint, all in a matter of hours,
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t-bone_2003 — 14 years ago(April 27, 2011 01:55 AM)
This thread is pretty amusing. It's hard to believe people are STILL going on about this crazy conspiracy stuff.
This video of a debate between a skeptic and a 9/11 truther illustrates pretty clearly where conspiracy theorists go wrong in their critical thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYyfvOrO-s&feature=related
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SpikeHat — 15 years ago(February 18, 2011 09:51 PM)
@ sljones44:
WAKE UP indeed. Your non-movie-related post is out of place, and not likely to convert supporters over to your planet. Your mention of Karl Rove aka "Bush's Brian" made me laugh.
Oh, you missed a perp #104. Saddam Hussein the real mastermind of 9/11 using his famous WMD's. Good thing W finally got him; "Mission Accomplished"!
BTW I enjoyed
The Long Kiss Goodnight.