Jinnah The Great
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sanjayr24 — 19 years ago(March 08, 2007 06:48 AM)
Why the hell are you guys waiting ??? Come get it. Losers. You have already lost 4 wars and still your dreams don't end. Trust me there is a lot your darul islam pakiland needs to jealous about. Go, build your country so that its known about things other that just producing terrorists.
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rfreddy — 19 years ago(March 10, 2007 11:27 PM)
Bollywood heroes are INDIAN muslims.. man. they are our own. They feel proud to be indians. Because they get the freedom to express their talent here. They get the respect for their talents in return. The muslims in india are free to think, free to wear what they like, and free to express. not like pak muslims. How many of the pak people have been killed because they have not worn a burqa or they hv expressed their opinions Frankly, are you not ashamed???
Pakistan, the state is created by Jinnah. But have you people ever experienced freedom???
INDIA IS A FREE COUNTRYYY
and indian muslims are proud to be INDIAN muslims.
regards
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rfreddy — 19 years ago(March 24, 2007 08:58 PM)
Every country has its own share of riots and violence. I didn't say that india is free from violence. I said Indian muslims are free.. to vote, to create parties, to come up in the society, to act, to wear what they like, to write books, to party, to marry from other religions, to get the beep out of India's enemies, and what not! Just see how many muslims are playing in the indian cricket team. just see how many muslims are in the entertainment field. just see how many muslims are in the Indian army. And for your information, The Indian President is Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam who is very much a muslim.
Here we look for talent and not religion. In stark contrast, i would like to quote the example of Pakistan cricket team. There WAS one christian called Yousuf Youhana and now his name is Mohammad Yousuf. I guess you need no more evidence.
INDIA IS A FREE COUNTRYYY
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shadowman123 — 19 years ago(March 30, 2007 03:12 AM)
Yes but speaking as a complete 'alien' who spent time living in Pakistan , I can clearly say that yes there are problems in Pakistani society and the people need to be educated about them but having said only the people can do that! Unlike the so called secular Indian government that has rubber stamped politicans and manfactured actors so they can make them-selves appear to be one to the out-side world.
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umark2005 — 19 years ago(March 31, 2007 09:56 PM)
Raulfreddy, I apologize for my earlier post, it wasn't called for.
I'm happy that you are patriotic as an indian muslim. My concern was only for the wellbeing of my muslim bros/sisters across the border, seeing how over 2000 were raped/killed in india 4 yrs ago.
Be as indian as you want, we're fine with that. But when our people are being killed your countrydon't expect us to be quiet about that.
I have lived in pakistan and I can tell you that we treat our minorities well. Though we also have our occasional riots/etc, I really doubt that pakistanis have ever committed mass murders to such a scale as the hindus have recently(One thing that brought tears to my eyes was hearing how pregnant muslim women were knifed open and their unborn kids thrown in the fire) IT was an absolute horrific crime and the indian government did absolutely nothing considering its a "free democracy". Even the Sikhs have been betrayed by the hindus on many occasions. Though we are not indian, these are things we will never forget.
My question to you is: what has this "democratic gov't" done to ensure that such a genocide never occurs again?
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sweetdreamssss — 13 years ago(March 21, 2013 06:26 PM)
I'm an Indian muslim and I can tell u that we're happy that my granddad didnt make the same mistake some of his cousins made -aka- migrating to Pakistan.Most of them have migrated to Canada and UK,but our family is still well in India
U say u treat ur minority well,other than kidnapping Hindu girls and converting them,other than burning churches and destroying temples,using blasphemy laws for personal vengeance,bombing Shia Mosques and killing them while travelling in bus,desecrating Ahmedi graves and not given proper treatment to your first Nobel winner,Abdus Salam..
The relationship between Indian and Pakistani muslims were cut during 1947 and we dont need your helpWe can defend on our own..We dont want to be authoritative country like urs..
Ur country is going to dogs,because muslims cease to act as muslims,but u people act like dinosaurs in Jurassic Park -
zaindy — 18 years ago(April 27, 2007 02:45 AM)
LOL! The Indian jealousy at the existance of Pakistan is showing in this thread! Jinnah tried very hard to work with the Hindu's to make sure that India would remain a united country. But he later realized that because the Hindus were much greater in number, and because of the Hindu refusal to accept his 14 points, he had to ask for a separate nation. Do some research from unbiased sources before you come here to diss the Father of our Nation. And I know you Indian's are giving this film the lowest rating you can, but please, actually watch the film or don't vote at all.
We Pakistani's respect your Gandhi, you should respect our Jinnah. -
Harrysalt — 16 years ago(April 18, 2009 01:19 AM)
Sanjay, time to grow up buddy. Neither Pakistan NOR india can get anything out of each other with war. Its just the world we live in. Whether Pakistan gets Kashmir or not, its a different thing, but the point is How many more lives India is willing to waste to keep the part of the land that it didn't even get fairly?
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parunach — 18 years ago(July 10, 2007 11:28 AM)
I am of Indian origin and look at all the writings in this thread with disgust. I am personally happy with the existence of both countries in a idealogical sense. Both countries are not going to go away, we might as well accept that. Both countries have their share of problems. India has too many people with problems such as poverty, malnutrition and corruption.
If Jinnah were around now, he would be ashamed of Pakistan and how religious tensions are tearing the country. Jinnah was a man of integrity who realized the problems with too much religion and had wanted a secular country where muslims could live in peace. What do we have instead in Pakistan, people wanting Sharia law and so on.
Instead of concentrating on who has Kashmir, who is great etc, I would think that both countries need to work on improving the economic structure to reduce the severe problems in both countries. -
asifshahzad_1 — 17 years ago(May 27, 2008 02:07 PM)
i dono wht you ppl are discussing here.. an unstoppable word war vich has nothing to do with the movie its a an informative movie of a man who has got some international fame dats y a man like Christopher lee is even considering this role, his best role till now..! so one shoud see the movie and
appriciate his work .. instead of just making this as a political forum! -
Harrysalt — 16 years ago(April 18, 2009 01:16 AM)
Well Muslims came from Arab and conquered the Indian and ruled "Hindustan" for over 1000 years. Yes Muslims lost their power after British rule and smart people like Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, Iqbal and Jinnah realized that there would be no living after Britishs are gone, and man weren't they right, look up how many Muslims have been killed in India since partition as opposed to Hindus!
Bollywood is a beep industry that plagiarises everything from Hollywood and other western films, so there is nothing to be jealous of "Bollywood". LOL even the name is a copy of Hollywood and your proud of that? -
Harrysalt — 16 years ago(April 18, 2009 01:14 AM)
he was a man who threated to cause civil war in india had his demands for free muslim state been rejected.
Ok I guess this is what your text books and media teach you, I can't say anything more.
in fact it is well recorded that jinnah was not even a strong muslim, he drank liquor and lived and acted like a british man for almost his entire term in india.
Thats right, and so am I, I am atheist Pakistani but I love the leader who created a country called Pakistan. There's nothing wrong in being a "Non-Muslim".
if muslims want to look up to leaders they need to look at people such as maulana azad, apj, and not conniving, machiavellian leaders such as jinnah.
Well Jinnah with capital "J" you moron, was a smart, intellegent man, your just pissed of coz he divided your land called India.
"this again does not imply that he was a black monstorous badmouthing beast, but rather a man of great potential who simply got lost in his unrequitted love of power."
Black bad mouth?? Again its your just jelaousy speaking. I didn't say Gandhi an ugly bald sand beep couldn't do what Jinnah did, now did I?