Music: Bebop
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Force_of_Legend — 15 years ago(July 11, 2010 10:31 AM)
I was first introduced to anime by a good friend of mine back in 2004. The first anime that he showed me was an episode of Bebop ( Ganymede Elegy). I did enjoy the episode. It wasn't until I saw Pierrot le Fou when I officially jumped on the Bebop bandwagon. Bebop is a fantastic show.
Trigun was the third series that I started to watch. Another amazing show. Vash is such a great character. Just like Spike. Although I tend to like Vash a little more.
To me it is like Apples, and Oranges. I love both.
Cowboy Bebop 10 out of 10
Trigun 10 out of 10
Have a nice Day
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zecon202 — 15 years ago(October 29, 2010 12:31 AM)
^ sum up my thoughts exactly. However in Bebop credit music is good for those that liked it, Trigun doesn't rely much on music, rather it focuses more on script and sound effects that would set the mood, atmosphere, personalities, storytelling ect Also for animation I would also give it a tie, true Bebop has some amazing backgrounds animation, however Trigun wins in character animations. To me the thing that give Trigun the edge is story, and to me story in the most important factor in any anime, to keep your interest glued to the screen, everything else will fall into place. Let take the anime 'When they cry' for example, personally I don't care about its music or animation which can be sometimes downright silly, but the story is epic, so epic in fact that It opened my eyes and I learned some valuable lessons in life that I would never have imagined coming from an anime!
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zecon202 — 15 years ago(November 07, 2010 01:14 AM)
Alright I'll give this a try
Music: Bebop, it had more songs, however I liked the songs in Trigun better.
Animation: Trigun for the characters, Bebop for the city backgrounds, I believe Vash trench coat alone was more difficult to animate than anything in Bebop.
Style: Trigun. Any of the characters from Trigun had more style and charisma than anyone from Bebop.
Writing: Trigun obviously, every episode was entertaining, whether it's a comedic episode with Vash as a goofball, or an action episode with Vash kicking ass, the writing stays interesting and consistent making you want to see more and more, rather than "I'm just going to skip this boring episode and get to the nitty-gritty" theme Cowboy Bebop has.
Story: Trigun. nuff said.
Spike Siegal vs Vash the Stampede: Vash the Stampede stomps Spike in every category, Vash IS Trigun, Spike is NOT Cowboy Bebop. There was one episode where Vash barely was shown and it was the only boring episode, Vash makes Trigun interesting. Can't say the same for Spike, there's plenty of episodes where Spike was barely shown, where both Jet and Faye steal the show, that's how lame Spike is. Spike is cocky, and sometimes annoying and unlikeable character, which is probably why
the creator has an easy time killing him off at the end
, while Vash
lives on to see another day
. Also in a duel there's no doubt that Vash would dominate, he would dodge all of Spikes bullets, and in one shot eliminate Spike's gun from his hand preaching his love and peace, after which he would probably treat Spike to a drink at a local bar, to wash away his humiliating defeat.
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Wolfwood, anyone carrying a giant cross as a weapon is badass, not to mention Wolfwood is almost as awesome as Vash.
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Stryfe: Faye, she's sexier and more dangerous than Meryl. She's also better with a gun, she's has somewhat of a mysterious past making her more interesting, and she's not as annoying as Meryl.
Ed vs. Milly Thompson: Milly Thompson, her simple minded attitude is somewhat cute, not to mention she carries around a huge Stun Gun. Ed is just a weird annoying little brat.
Vicious vs. Knives: Tie, both are lame in comparison to Legato.
Julia vs. Rem Saverem: Tie.
Trigun is better in my opinion, it has a better story and characters, and that's more important to me than music. If I had to choose between Trigun manga and Cowboy Bebop soundtrack, I'll choose Trigun manga anyday. -
kill-the-boxtrolls — 14 years ago(September 14, 2011 07:19 PM)
I know this thread is kinda outdated, but I wanted to pump it up a bit? I'm pretty obsessed with Trigun as much as I am with that horror film, "The Others." Despite that I'm more or less addicted to Bebop more and wish it had more eps. Anyways, here it goes.
Music: Bebop (the music on Trigun was nice too but I like Bebop's music a lot better.)
Animation: Hmm pretty hard maybe Trigun? Because I thought some of the animation on Bebop was a tad lousy, but I could've said Bebop for its CGI-related animation.
Style: Bebop
Writing: Bebop (Definitely! Bebop has one of the best writing ever!)
Story: Bebop
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash the Stampede: Spike. If Vash hadn't been so sickening sweet, I would've found it difficult to decide, but I'd rather give the cup to Spike. Sorry, vash, I'm sure you'll be playing with the bad-ass ppl your owwn age if you would've had more hot-headed and bold moments.
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Wolfwood (for sure! Sometimes Jet would get a little coy and sometimes even unlikable. The writers could've put a lot more characterization into Jet)
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Styfer: Faye
Ed vs. Millie: Ed
Vicious vs. Knives: Knives
Rem Savern vs. Julia: Rem
So I guess Bebop beats both Trigun and "The Others" by miles
"WHAT. ARE. YOU. GETTING. ALL. SENTI. MENTAL. ON. ME. FOR. YOU. LITTLE. SQUIRT?!" - Vash -
MrsSpooky — 14 years ago(September 14, 2011 10:56 PM)
Ok, I adore both shows and just came off of a Trigun marathon, so let me give it a shot:
Music: Bebop (the music on Trigun was awesome but I like Bebop's music a lot better, AND there was more!)
Animation: I have to give this one to Bebop. Maybe it's because Trigun was based on manga, but they did silly things with the faces with some reactions that while was cute overall, I could have lived without.
Style: I'm going to call this a draw. They were both different, and the styles fit the shows. Plus, Trigun was based on a manga that had its own style. Bebop wasn't.
Writing: I have to call this a draw. Bebop got to the heart of the story earlier, but once Trigun got to the heart of its story, it didn't let up. Characters in both shows were very well drawn, written and performed.
Story: I have to call this one a draw as well. I loved both stories. I loved how both protagonists had similar issues - a woman from their past that they were devoted to, an enemy that needed to be defeated. I will say that we got more of a sense of Vash's devotion to Rem in Trigun than we got of Spike's devotion to Julia in Bebop.
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash the Stampede: Spike by a hair. He had an edge that Vash didn't have. Both were tragic characters with their goofy side, but Spike had that edge that made him so fascinating (not to mention the 'cool' factor :).
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: I can't compare the two so I can't give an opinion. Wolfwood was Spike's edge to Vash. I say if one were to combine Vash with Wolfwood you'd come close to Spike (but add tons of cool). Wolfwood loved Vash like Jet loves Spike, but beyond that If we're talking preference, I'll have to pass
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Styfe: Meryl Stryfe by a dozen miles. Meryl was the queen of denial, but she didn't try to take advantage of people or lie or cheat to get ahead.
Ed vs. Millie: Millie. Millie had such clarity of vision and emotional strength as well as an endearing innocence. She could clearly see what Meryl couldn't and she wasn't afraid to speak her mind. As much as I love Ed, I adore Millie. She was the sharpest character in the show and didn't know it.
Vicious vs. Knives: Knives
Rem Savern vs. Julia: Rem, even if only because we knew more about her.
Geeze, I think Trigun has the edge with me. As much as I adore Cowboy Bebop, there is just as much to love with Trigun, even if for different reasons.
Spike! My precious
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Zanza8 — 13 years ago(August 18, 2012 01:21 PM)
Trigun. I love Bebop, but Vash touched my heart.
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i-jackie — 13 years ago(March 06, 2013 05:00 AM)
I agree with your comparison, although for me Vash is definite win against Spike. But I guess, I just like idealists ;).
The animation of the film was great, so it's too bad we didn't have something similar in the tv series. -
sawfan1414 — 12 years ago(July 15, 2013 03:58 AM)
Adding an extra category
Music: Bebop by FAR, not even close here.
Animation: Bebop. Trigun had good character designs, but other than that, it's aged pretty hard. Bebop still looks pretty slick.
Style: Bebop.
Writing: Bebop. Again, BY FAR.
Story: Tie. I genuinely loved both stories.
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash the Stampede: Spike. But i do love Vash.
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Wolfwood.
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Styfer: Faye
Ed vs. Millie: eh.
Vicious vs. Legato: Legato. There is no reason for it to be Vicious vs Knives, Knives was in 2 episodes, Legato was the major villain of Trigun.
Rem Savern vs. Julia: Julia.
Knocking on Heaven's Door vs Badlands Rumble: Knockin on Heaven's Door.
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MrsSpooky — 12 years ago(July 17, 2013 09:00 PM)
Vicious vs. Legato: Legato. There is no reason for it to be Vicious vs Knives, Knives was in 2 episodes, Legato was the major villain of Trigun.
Actually, I think Vicious and Knives had a fairly close correlation. Vicious appeared in more episodes of Bebop than Knives did in Trigun, but he was mentioned in quite a few, and actually turned out to be the catalyst of all the horrors that were visited upon Vash. Plus their showdown at the end I thought paralleled the clash between Spike and Vicious in Bebop.
Vicious would win that particular competition over Knives, but Knives did remind me of Vicious.
Three two one Tiger & Bunny Over and Out.
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MrsSpooky — 12 years ago(July 18, 2013 07:57 AM)
Vicious vs. Legato: Legato. There is no reason for it to be Vicious vs Knives, Knives was in 2 episodes, Legato was the major villain of Trigun.
Actually, I think Vicious and Knives had a fairly close correlation. Vicious appeared in more episodes of Bebop than Knives did in Trigun, but he was mentioned in quite a few, and actually turned out to be the catalyst of all the horrors that were visited upon Vash. Plus their showdown at the end I thought paralleled the clash between Spike and Vicious in Bebop.
Vicious would win that particular competition over Knives, but Knives did remind me of Vicious.
Three two one Tiger & Bunny Over and Out.
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ScottMerica — 11 years ago(January 08, 2015 05:19 PM)
Music: Bebop
Animation: Bebop
Style: Bebop
Writing: Bebop
Story: Trigun
Spike vs Vash: Tie
Jet vs Wolfwood: Wolfwood
Fay vs Meryl: Faye
Ed vs Milly: Ed
Vicious vs Knives: Tie
Julia vs. Rem: Rem
Pierrot le Fou vs Legato: Legato
Ein vs Kuroneko sama: Ein
Cowboy Bebop: 9
Trigun: 6
Trigun is a lot of fun with moments of excellence, but suffers a bit from some pacing issues. Cowboy Bebop is just great all around and never bored me
You're gonna carry that weight. -
super-staff — 10 years ago(May 18, 2015 09:05 AM)
Music: Cowboy Bebop
Animation: Cowboy Bebop
Style: Cowboy Bebop
Writing: Cowboy Bebop
Story: Cowboy Bebop
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash The Stampede: Tough one, but I might have to go withSpike Spiegel.
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Jet Black, but Wolfwood's an extremely close second
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Stryfe: Faye Valentine (hated Meryl, so no contest there)
Ed vs. Milly Thompson: Milly Thompson
Vicious vs. Knives: Vicious
Julia vs. Rem Saverem: Rem Saverem
End Count
Cowboy Bebop: 9
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anon17 — 10 years ago(July 20, 2015 07:00 PM)
i dunno, they seem too different to compare this way, on 1 hand we have the most stylized, if not most western influenced anime that stands as a series and on individual sessions.
on the other, you have a really cool setting and awesomely cool characters in a great story, bringing the best traditional anime IMO.
I love both, but truthfully, I watched a lot of anime to give it a shot, even episodes of trigun and cowboy bebop. It wasn't until i watched Pierrot le Fou that i got hooked.
i can watch any episode of bebop at any given time, but if i wanted to binge watch one, it'd be trigun.
Music: Cowboy Bebop
Animation: Cowboy Bebop
Style: Cowboy Bebop
Writing: Cowboy Bebop (trigun has a little too much typical anime cheese)
Story: Trigun
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash The Stampede: other than being the main characters and total bad-asses, they are totally different, apples and oranges. one is an anti-hero who gets sh*t done, the other is stereotypical hero archetype
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: same as above, you got one patriarchal captain/former lawman vs a reluctant hero with total mystery
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Stryfe: Faye Valentine but again, totally different characters
Ed vs. Milly Thompson: Ed, personalities i can see, milly had more surprises, only because you knew from the getgo what Ed was capable of
Vicious vs. Knives: Vicious, knives is a cooler threat, but little too one-dimensional.. not to say vicious wasn't, but they left enough mystery in him
Julia vs. Rem Saverem: Rem Saverem -
itsment2be — 10 years ago(February 05, 2016 12:43 PM)
I'm utterly baffled why people give this anime so much hype.
There are plenty of characters who don't kill. Batman, Superman, Kenshin, etc. They remain loveable characters because there's a prison/jail system in place, with laws and consequences for committing crimes.
In Trigun, Vash doesn't hold these criminals responsible for the crimes they commit. He just tells them to "run along".
So they can kill, rape, and destroy property on another day, as long as it's not under his watch.
This is so unbelievably stupid, that I can't even recommend this anime to kids. It is universally insulting to the intelligence of all human beings regardless of age. If I watch this with a little kid, eventually at the end of the episode the kid will ask me why Vash doesn't put the bad guys in jail. And I won't have an answer other than:
Vash has an extremely immature view of right and wrong. Actually it's beyond immature. His moral compass has been damaged by childhood trauma. His childhood scars won't allow him to accept the simple fact that letting a murderer(who continually kills) live free is infinitely more evil than killing the murderer. His childhood scars won't allow him to comprehend how selfish he truly is, and how he kills more people indirectly, when he saves serial murderers.
It's almost like when Knives killed the spider and Vash became angry. Knives actually saved much more butterflies in the long run, because the spider won't kill any more butterflies in the future.
Vash would rather save both the spider and 1 butterfly, which will eventually result in much more dead butterflies in the future since the spider is still alive.
Vash would have to imprison the spider and feed it some kind of high protein plant based substitute for the rest of the spider's life. Either that or follow the spider for the rest of it's life and continually save butterflies until the spider starves to death.
Since Vash isn't willing to do any of the basic things necessary to ensure human public safety (Such as when he allowed Gasback to walkaway from a bank heist in the movie "Trigun Badlands Rumble", then obviously he's ok with the spider killing many future butterflies as long as he doesn't have to bear witness to it.
You can't compare Vash to batman just because they both don't kill. Joker breaks out of maximum security prisons. But at least Batman tried his best to ensure public safety. Vash allows serial murderers to walk off into the sunset, with absolutely zero consequences.
Morality is a luxury. Without civilization (technology/economy/laws/infrastructure), morality is a luxury almost no one can afford.
Vash is equally as moronic as Morgan from the walking dead.
Vash the Stampede is quite possibly the worst anime character ever created.
Such a waste of my time. Watched a couple of episodes. I looked at the IMDB ratings, and assumed that I would end up loving Trigun. I was only two episodes into the series, and I made a crappy decision to purchase these two statues:
http://www.amazon.com/Kotobukiya-Trigun-Stampede-Gunman-ArtFXJ/dp/B00E5MG184/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1454704007&sr=1-2&keywords=vash+the+stampede
http://www.amazon.com/Kotobukiya-Trigun-Badlands-Nicholas-Wolfwood/dp/B00AQA0N06/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1454704027&sr=1-2&keywords=nicholas+d+wolfwood
They haven't even arrived yet, and I'm already cancelling the order because I don't want eternal reminders of the single worst anime, and anime characters I've ever encountered in my entire life staring me in the face for the rest of my days.
Two eternal reminders of the hours of life I'll never get back. I don't even care if I don't get a full refund. I would rather throw those hellish things away, than sell them and risk having some poor shmuck bamboozled into thinking that the anime is actually worth watching.